Antediluvian gets used as a pejorative term for basic or unsophisticated things. Not so much now - more often we call such things “stone age” or the like. But the idea is the same.
My father was from an ecclesiastical background, and was wont to use the term. He was, none the less, an atheist.
So the Mediterranean held a straight flush?
Never shown to a human though. I guess everyone folded.
I love how this thread came roaring back to life after over 20 years and nobody commented on it. I was surprised to get an email notification about it, and even more surprised that my account still worked.
Not to mention the discovering a whole mass of continents and other islands, collecting a bunch of kangaroos, platypodes and kiwi and things but not keeping any records. How did the kiwi get home? That’s what I wanted to know when someone told me the story as a kid.
Welcome back! Hope you stick around.
I just learned a new word!
Although I did already know the correct word for where zoos in Australia keep them:
the platypussary.
And baby ones are called puggles.
now that’s some ignorance that I needed to be fought! 
Thanks.
Presumably the Mesopotamian cities got covered same way the Nile treated Egypt -regular floods depositing silt. The difference was the Nile floods were regular, the Mesopotamian ones less so. The same with most of the area - IIRC reading that the whole of the Middle East experienced a bit more rain than it does today. Plus, apparently the giveaway for archaeologists was that often the location of an ancient city was a mound of debris as succesive generations build on the existing mess without carting things away. That was their tell.
ISWYDT!
The New World also has flood myths.
So, no.
how could a timber ship be found if it wasn’t in a preserving situation ?
Either totally dry or oxygen free (the peat bogs etc ) ?
Harsh conditions of damp dry , frozen , thawed cycles will cause the timber to split ?
If you say, suppose the ship was made of magic timber, then it could be preserved ? But then why build it at all ? Why not just magically save all you want save… ? Or better yet, magically kill all you want to kill ? (Which is already a problem with the story.. someone magically sent 40 days of rain.. um … )
One person saving the fauna of the entire world from a flood by taking a pair of every animal on a ship is, of course, completely implausible. But one person saving his immediate family and a few of their more valuable livestock from a smaller but still locally-devastating flood by taking them on a ship, and then the tale growing in the telling among his descendants, is just maybe plausible.
Or the writers of Gilgamesh. Or the writers of the myth the flood story in Gilgamesh was based on.
Back in Usenet days someone post 100 flood myths from around the world in talk.origins. They were fascinating. Lots of them had the last survivors be met by their friends coming over hills. I guess that’s what you get from stories written before the invention of logic.
I always find it hilarious that flood proponents, who all disparage evolution, believe in something that would require hyper-evolution at a level that is totally absurd. They’ve given up getting all species today onto the ark, and now claim that undefined “kinds” were on instead, which became the current set of species.
But that’s not even the worst part. If you compute the weight of water that would have had to fall to flood the earth, the ark would have been squashed flat. But, no matter, since the potential energy of all that water up high released when it hit the ground/sea would have burned everything up.
Do literalists truly believe this? That a pair of every single species on earth could fit on a single boat? Including species Noah couldn’t have even been aware of such as polar bears? If not, how do they account for the ones that didn’t make the boat? Because they don’t believe in evolution…
Yes.
Yes but not species, every “kind”.
Yes every “kind” was guided to The Ark by God (apparently).
No “kind” wasn’t on The Ark.
Yeah, they don’t believe in “evolution” but hyper-rapid speciation from “kinds” is somehow on the table. Hyper-rapid meaning a new species in every birth.
And, according to some apologists, God using the region’s volcanos to launch Australian animals to their proper habitat.
This is like a flat-earther explaining why the moon only appears to be a sphere to astronauts.
Hence the high propensity for Australian animals to have springy legs. It all makes perfect sense when you do your own research and reason it out.