So...I have a counterfeit $20 in my pocket

Another vote for contacting the USSS (due to the Nazi connotation, I can’t bring myself to write “SS”).

And Santo Rugger, IIRC from my tour of the Federal Reserve Bank here in Cleveland, any Federal Reserve bank will give you a new, complete bill if you give them at least 51% of a torn or damaged bill.

[QUOTE=Cluricaun]
What does it look like? Does it seem false or fake to you? Can you post a pic? I’ve never seen one.
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I’m not going to bother with a pic. It actually looks pretty good, but where it was (apparently) creased in the center at one point you’ve got it wearing in a way that a real bill doesn’t do it. That, and the US 20 that’s vertically embedded one edge is totally absent.

Basically, though, it looks good but feels pretty unbelievable. I just don’t spend all that time checking out my bills, I just get them and spend them, ya know?

-Joe

[QUOTE=A.R. Cane]
I can’t believe they gave the bill back to you. Did they mark it somehow, so it couldn’t be passed again? Even then it’s still a bonehead move. I would definately report it to the SS.

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Well, that was the whole thing - I figured I was screwed the moment the nice Pizza Hut delivery girl made a special trip back to my house to get a REAL $20. So, being out $20 wasn’t a surprise. The bank letting me walk out with the note? That was the surprise.

-Joe

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Well, that was the whole thing - I figured I was screwed the moment the nice Pizza Hut delivery girl made a special trip back to my house to get a REAL $20. So, being out $20 wasn’t a surprise. The bank letting me walk out with the note? That was the surprise.

-Joe
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Hey, according to the cite above, the pizza girl should have kept the fake $20 and tried to delay you while she made note of your description and license plate.

Hmmm.
I’d contact the US SS.
I’d also file a complaint with the bank under Fed. Reserve Reg. E [1], regarding a failed dispense on the part of their ATM.
If they don’t know what you’re talking about, ask to speak to their Compliance Department. Come to think of it, I’d have a talk with their Compliance folks about their mishandling of the counterfeit… but the SS will be glad to have that discussion for you.

[1] Federal Reserve Board: Regulations

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
SNIP
I am sure ATM technology has changed and improved over the years, but even 2 decades ago we did not count and verify every bill that went into the ATM by hand (we had machines for that - thank Og as I wouldn’t want to count out $40,000 in $20s - twice for verification!). Instead, we got stacks of money delivered - about even between new and used currency. We would drop them into the machine for counting, then load them into the ATM drums. If somehow a counterfeit got through the system (not all that hard to believe - few would want to admit to being duped by a counterfeit and might just keep passing it along to save face), it was unlikely to be found in the loading process.
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Modern ATMs can be purchased that would catch counterfeit bills, but I believe that in practice the feature is not in wide use.

[QUOTE=Skammer]
Hey, according to the cite above, the pizza girl should have kept the fake $20 and tried to delay you while she made note of your description and license plate.
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I think I’ve seen that movie… :cool:

[QUOTE=Mr. Slant]
Modern ATMs can be purchased that would catch counterfeit bills, but I believe that in practice the feature is not in wide use.
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We were happy whenever 2 of the 4 bill counters worked properly (otherwise someone is counting $40,000 by hand). Automated counterfeit detection would have been pie-in-the-sky. But in 3 years, I only remember a single counterfeit coming through (it was caught by the teller), and I wasn’t present when she caught it.

The secret service? Consider my ignorance fought, I thought all they did was protect the president :o

[QUOTE=Jurph]
I think I’ve seen that movie… :cool:
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Was it, by any chance, a sausage pizza? :cool:

I got a $10 bill as change in a pizza parlor and later noticed it was fake. I contacted the Secret Service. They asked me to send it to them which I did. They told me that there was no way I was going to be reimbursed but that I could deduct it from my taxes. They sent a reciept (letter) acknowledging that they recieved it so that I could take the deduction.

[QUOTE=D_Odds]
We were happy whenever 2 of the 4 bill counters worked properly (otherwise someone is counting $40,000 by hand). Automated counterfeit detection would have been pie-in-the-sky. But in 3 years, I only remember a single counterfeit coming through (it was caught by the teller), and I wasn’t present when she caught it.
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Did you guys have those cussed Fujitsu cash counters?
I love devices with an annual preventive maintenance routine that calls for 36 labor hours…

:slight_smile:

I’m going to make $50k in counterfeit bills and send them to the SS. Imagine how big my tax refund is going to be this year!

Another vote for calling the SS. It might be a problem if the OP is Jewish though.

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
I’m not going to bother with a pic. It actually looks pretty good, but where it was (apparently) creased in the center at one point you’ve got it wearing in a way that a real bill doesn’t do it. That, and the US 20 that’s vertically embedded one edge is totally absent.

Basically, though, it looks good but feels pretty unbelievable. I just don’t spend all that time checking out my bills, I just get them and spend them, ya know?

-Joe
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Question: what is the date on the bill?

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Well, that was the whole thing - I figured I was screwed the moment the nice Pizza Hut delivery girl made a special trip back to my house to get a REAL $20.
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Er, just out of curiosity, how do you know that the nice Pizza Hut girl didn’t scam you?

[QUOTE=Pushkin]
The secret service? Consider my ignorance fought, I thought all they did was protect the president :o
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Actually, the Secret Service was created (in 1865) to fight counterfeiting. Later their duties were expanded to include fighting all types of fraud against the government. They didn’t start protecting the president until 1902. They are still responsible for protecting against counterfeiting, along with investigating other types of financial fraud like identity theft.

Go to the 'hood and buy drugs with it.

[QUOTE=Pushkin]
The secret service? Consider my ignorance fought, I thought all they did was protect the president :o
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Source: http://www.secretservice.gov/mission.shtml