As far as I am concerned this “movie” has never been made.
Alien, Aliens, Alien3 and Alien Resurrection were all superior to this crap-fest.
Hell, even Predator was better.
Bryan Ekers: I’ll put it this way: If I were tasked with writing the backstory to this movie, I think I could make it logically consistent. But in truth, I think the whole first-civilization-pyramid-in-Antarctica thing is stupid, too. So were a lot of other story points. So I won’t argue with you any more about it 
I thought single Aliens would become queens somehow. After all, where did the queen in Aliens come from? The first face-hugger just happened to be a queen-layin face hugger?
:dubious:
Alien Resurrection? Alien 3, I could see some argue for. But Resurrection??? Ostrich-walking acid-spitting aliens? With such witty dialog as:
Sigourney Weaver: So, who do I have to f*ck to get out of here?
…and…
Ron Perlman: So, Ripley - I heard you, like, seen one a dese tings before?
Sigourney Weaver: That’s right.
Ron Perlman: <Channeling Keanu Reaves>Whoa</CKR>. So, like…what’d you do?
Sigourney Weaver: I died!!
Not to mention the entire “baby-loves-momma” plot.
Sorry, vin, but you’re out of your mind.
Damn that submit button! I meant to come back to this:
Taken by itself, Alien 3 is a decent movie. But as a sequel, the director took a big steaming crap on the other two. Instead of continuing the story in a somewhat logical fashion, he assumes
- Ripley would not have checked to see if there were any errant eggs lying around
- The facehugger can find it’s way from the hangar to the cryo-freeze room because it can somehow find humans, regardless of where they are or what they’re in.
- It can break into the cryo-tube without waking anyone up.
- It can get out again without leaving a trace.
Finally, he sees fit to kill off all the remaining characters from Aliens during the opening credits!! I mean, it’s not bad enough that our heroine is now too stupid to live (to borrow the phrase), but Newt & Hicks are gone too?!
I don’t have a problem with the slower pace of the movie, I think the story sucked.
Big fan of both series. I was never too much of a nerd about the back story, but this movie has brought it to the forefront. So many questions
What satisfaction can be derived out of hunting humans? Arnie and his guys might have been a nice challenge, but some guy with a flintlock? Did you back stab him during the x minutes it takes to reload?
Wouldn’t they have a more satisfying challenge dueling against a Musashi Miyamoto or Cyrano de Bergerac, melee weapon only?
Are these teenage Predator’s going through a last test of warriorhood? Do they have a quota? Because melee weapons only, they seem to have a problem handling one alien. With the shoulder cannon, the kill rate goes through the roof.
When are they going to come out with “Predator versus El Santo”?
Going from what we know in the movies, pretty much, yeah. We aren’t specifically told that a warrior alien can turn into a queen, and we are specifically told that the alien embryo inside Ripley in Alien[sup]3[/sup] is a queen alien. Non-movie sources (RPG, cheap novels) indicate that a warrior alien can turn into a queen.
We can still argue that a facehugger is capable of implanting a regular embryo or a queen embryo depending on circumstances, though.
In all of the back and forth about the rationale for the pyramids and how that meshes with the jungle hunts, are we assuming that all Predators are on the same page?
Perhaps there are multiple tribes of Predators that use Earth as a game preserve. And maybe they have different rules and customs.
Anything in cannon to suggest otherwise?
No, but there’s also nothing in the movies to suggest that the predators are in actuality not time-traveling humans from the future who are horribly mutated after exposure to radioactive chemicals and they’ve returned to the past to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in their beloved corps.
Just sayin’.
I hate the notion that “1 species = 1 culture” or “1 planet = 1 climate” that seems very prevalent in sci-fi. Going by that logic, if your only exposure to humans was through movies you could never accept that humans can both surf & ski, or live in the desert or a tropical rain forest, or republican or democrat, or be christian or muslim, etc, etc, etc.
I have no problem with different characters in different movies behaving in different ways. This guy hunts in the jungle, that guy hunts on the ice. Not a problem.
I know I stand just about alone in this opinion, but hey, I liked it better than Alien 3. (The unofficial non-Fincher-approved edition of Alien 3 was much, much better by the way)
I thought it was a comic-book version of a Alien story.
Yes, it wasn’t very serious and sometimes cringe-worthy, but still good fun.
Well, I liked it, even though I had pretty low expectations.
The plot is not the same as the novels (set in the future) but the idea of a ‘rite of passage’ hunt for the young preds was a good idea. We were missing the grizzled commander (Cracked Tusk) but I thought that the main pred was actually a very good character. This movie is almost as re-watchable as Predator or Aliens (good thing).
The only issue i really have (aside from wanting a longer, more fleshed out movie)
is the demise of the alien Queen. Was she still alive when she went down? If so, haven’t we already established that these things can survive in deep space? How can there not be any evidence left?
I think setting it in the future would have been good, and allowed for more pro-active humans, as has been said.
As for the ‘Predators are too stupid to live’ argument over the alien infestation at the end… I have a counterargument. It was planned.
No one said the hunt was over. They’ve been doing this for, what? Centuries? Millenia? I suspect that they -know- the bodies are going to probably be infested, and bring it aboard the ship as the ‘second part’ of the hunt. They’re an intelligent race who know exactly how the aliens breed. It doesn’t make sense that they wouldn’t know, and wouldn’t plan for it.