So my friend has a 120dB horn on his car. How loud is that?

Well… yeah. The question pretty much speaks for itself. I’m under the impression that it’s louder than normal, but I don’t really know the extent of it. Can anybody tell me?

It’s loud. But a quick Google search turns up even louder ones at 130 dB. Typically they run around 90 dB or so.

Pretty damn loud – this link has some example levels

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/sound/u11l2b.html

At first I though that you wouldn’t get a horn that loud, but some consideration and some checking turn out that you can and thinking of the other things people do to their cars I’m surprised I doubted it.

SD

Car nut and car-alarm installer here. I highly doubt they’re rating those horns by any strict standard. How far away is the sound meter----six inches? one foot? one millimeter? And where is the horn mounted in the car’s engine compartment----are other components in a place where they can impede the sound?

I was in Pep Boys yesterday looking at replacement horns for the dead ones in my car. They were selling original-equipment horns rated at 125 dB, and for $1 more, an extra-loud model at 132 dB. But I smell tomfoolery-----when I looked through the clear packaging, both horns sported the
exact same part number! So I put in some used Cadillac horns instead; they have a nice sound.

Also, for what it’s worth, many car alarm sirens have stickers on them claiming 120 dB.

You could ask your friend to beep it for you. :slight_smile:

Since the dB scale is logarithmic, given Q.E.D.'s figure of 90dB for a normal horn, it would be 1000 times louder than your average horn.

But personally, I’m with antechinus. Get your friend to beep it for you. :slight_smile:

Hehe…

Is that 120 dB of “meep!” or 120 dB of “WHONNNK!”

I think Chris has the right idea - those mid-70s Caddy horns (four tones, rather than the usual one or two) had a good strong tone that cut through just about anything and said “MOVE IT! Something BIG is coming at you!”

My pocket ref book says that a car horn at five meters is 100 dB; 120 dB is described as “Thunder, diesel engine room (Incidentally , my lovely wife arranged for me to tour the engine room of one of the Alaska state ferries, big ocean-going boats; it was god-damned LOUD), nearby riveter.”

Also, car horns sound much more authoritative when you have two horns in unison, tuned maybe a third apart.

My pocket ref book says that a car horn at five meters is 100 dB; 120 dB is described as “Thunder, diesel engine room (Incidentally , my lovely wife arranged for me to tour the engine room of one of the Alaska state ferries, big ocean-going boats; it was god-damned LOUD), nearby riveter.”

Also, car horns sound much more authoritative when you have two horns in unison, tuned maybe a third apart.

Yeah, but rule of thumb is that when you halve the distance, the SPL increases by 6 dB, pretty close. So the 100 dB car horn at 5 meters is a ~113 dB horn at 1 meter. Obviously, a point source like a horn sounds louder the closer you are to it, so tucked into any noise measurement is some distance measurement*. This place says a typical car horn is 115 dB at 3 ft (darn close to Rocketeer’s cite); other places seen to peg it anywhere between 110 dB and 120 dB (without the distance).

One meter is kind of a standard measuring distance, so often a “120 dB” figure given with no distance implies one meter. However, given that marketing forces are at work here, I would be hesitant to assume that’s the way the horn’s being measured. But hey, 120 dB ain’t that much louder than 115 dB.

Additionally, there’s a couple perception issues involved. First, the human ear is more sensitive to certain frequencies than to others, so a 120 dB noise at one frequency can seem much louder than a 120 dB noise at another. Often, noise will be cited using “A-weighted” dB, which increases or reduces the “actual” dB based on the perceived loudness of the noise frequency. Second, there’s something of a noise quality issue, where certain noises are more jarring (and likely to be noticed) than others.
*Anecdote: I occasionally use a dB meter at work. This meter is calibrated with a 140 dB noise source that fits directly over the tip of the microphone. Thus, the source is 140 dB…at 1/2 inch (or whatever) distance. If you hold the source in your hand and turn it on, it makes about the same noise as someone whispering a couple feet away.