They are taking it even worse that she’s won. Now they have validation, and when Trump and the Republicans take office they’ll feel they have cover for their every crime.
When mobs kill black people or gang rape women while chanting “TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!”, *that’s *destabilization.
What about the people–some on this very message board–who reacted to the election by crying, shaking, vomiting, not showing up for school/work, or contemplating suicide?
Maturity of a toddler, indeed.
Lessee, one person is reacting to being lampooned on a TV show, the others are reacting to the possibility that the nation as they know it is over and their friends’ and families’ (and perhaps their own) lives may be in actual danger.
Yet you call the latter reaction just as much a toddler’s emotional display as the former.
Ah, but the difference is that the latter aren’t* really* people and don’t deserve any sympathy. They are all less than human; less than animals really and deserve nothing but torment, oppression, and death.
Affirming that as American policy is what this election was all about.
So the solution is to go out and riot? Yeah, how’s that working out for ya? :rolleyes:
And as I stated before, 1930s Germany was a far cry from 2010s USA.
I don’t see Trump as Hitler. Richard Nixon might be a better comparison. (Not that that’s a good thing)
Thar’s a pretty huge insult to Nixon.
Let’s see. No one’s life is in “actual danger” as a result of the election. And no, it’s not normal, mature, or adult to react to current events by crying and shaking.
Do you need a safe space, and a blankie?
I, for one, have never accused Trump of being stupid. Yah, he has issues, but I also think he has access to a vast quantity of market data, and used it to tailor his message in such a way that won him the election. Had the popular vote been important, he very well may have won the popular vote.
It may boil down to “he has people to do that for him”, being so wealthy that he doesn’t need to personally possess the kind of expertise he can hire. Nonetheless, he is at the top of that organization and he won.
I think it is a victory for pathos. Ask Trump supporters what they expect to happen, what policy proposals they liked, and the answer often doesn’t make sense if it amounts to more than a blank stare in the first place (or it is something against “liberals”, not really pro-Trump). No, I think a lot of voters were motivated by their feelings, while Hillary just wasn’t all that inspiring. She had reasons galore, but since she wasn’t trusted, that didn’t matter.
I mean, I guess. I am not 100% sure why Dem voters did not vote- they seem to have the larger coalition, both nationwide and in a local, electoral college kind of way. But they didn’t show up and vote, not enough of them anyway. Maybe if people were really convinced that Hitlerism was upon us before the election, Dem voters would have had sufficient passion to get up off their asses and vote. Now? Kind of a waste. We have a system to decide who holds official positions, and the GOP is in control now.
I really don’t think it is going to be some Nazi apocalypse. I think it will be negative from the POV of “liberals” (I don’t consider myself on either side, though I vote Dem and am not looking forward to this), and maybe the anguish of that is what it takes to get them the fuck off their assess and into the voting booth next time.
Might help if the voters’ choice in the primaries actually mattered, instead of being overruled by super delegates. Maybe Dem voters would “feel it” if they could actually choose their nominee. Just a suggestion.
Of course it is, neofascists have been given control of the government. People who want to eliminate government services that people need to live are in control of the government. Bigoted religious fanatics are in control of the government. People who want to remove the regulations that keep companies from poisoning our food, air and water are in control of the government.
Even in the best case a great many people will die because of is election. And you and those like you will gloat over every one. When some transgender person is beaten to death, a woman raped, or a black person lit on fire; those will all be victories for you.
I’m curious if you’d feel that way about a Vet with PTSD having an extreme emotional reaction to Hillary’s election based on his past experience in combat and fear for other soldiers. For some reason it seems fine to mock the emotional difficulties of certain survivors and not others. This is a relevant distinction to me because November is my own worst month for PTSD and you can only take so many people hand-waving away sexual assault until it gets to you emotionally. When those making excuses are people you want to love and respect, it hits even harder.
At any rate, we do our best to muddle through our own issues, but many of us draw the line at attacking and denigrating other people out of frustration. In the instances we do that, we own it and apologize. To me maturity isn’t defined by how you react emotionally to something, but rather how you treat other people in the midst of that reaction.
Actually, if there’s any German leader Trump reminds me of, it’s Kaiser Wilhelm. Thin-skinned, huge ego, a tendency to make outrageous and offensive statements in the press, convinced that everyone’s out to get him, and a unique follical feature. (Trump has his goofy combover, the Kaiser had that wicked 'stash going on.)
You’re an ass.
OK, maybe the police won’t turn into storm troopers and pile brown bodies in the desert. I think the shock of Trump being elected made me flash back to the ethnic massacres of the 1990’s in the Balkans and the Congo. (And there was that Cracked article tying Trump to Hitler.)
Trump is actually very dangerous, and a GOP Congress is incredibly dangerous, to anyone on public assistance, and to large numbers of people in places that some idiot might want to bomb or invade. Let’s hope the “invade Iran” crowd don’'t win the Donald over, or we get a whole heap of trouble.
And if Roe v. Wade is overturned thousands of women will die. Maternal death rates have already increased in states with limited access to abortion. My best friend from Jr. High is concerned for her children because of her own experience, in 1998, or having her agenda stolen and “Leave, Nigger, or you’ll die” written with a date circled for her planned death. She was 13. Then there’s my friend who can’t insure her sickly children without Obamacare. It’s easy to mock others’ fears when you’ve got nothing to lose.
Exactly. I for one have never taken most of what Trump has said on the campaign trail seriously, mostly because I have the advantage of having followed him and his career fairly closely over the last quarter century or so. And while he did say enough that was troubling to me that, combined with the fact I felt I had no real idea what he’d actually do once in office (i.e., how much of a RINO he really was) I just came to feel I couldn’t in good conscience vote for him. But be that as it may, I’ve taken a great deal of what he’s been saying with a huge grain of salt, and sure enough he’s already backing off some of his claims and taking a more reasonable and diplomatic approach. An example would be his answer on 60 Minutes as to whether he still intended to have Hillary tried and put in prison. He was doing what he needed to do to get elected.
I agree that Trump is far from stupid, and I believe that the presidency is something he’s been laying the groundwork for for a long time. I believe this is why every decade or so he would allude to the possibility of it ‘if I felt the country needed me’, and also why did The Apprentice in the first place. I used to wonder why he bothered with it, given that it seemed to take up a fair amount of what little time he seemed to have and that the money he made from it wasn’t much considering how much he made in other ways. But I’ve come to believe that he was shrewdly making himself a welcome presence in people’s living rooms in an effort to get them to feel they knew him and therefore would be more amenable to voting for him in a presidential race. I’ve said for years that Trump is rarely doing what he appears to be doing and that he’s usually operating about four or five levels above what it looks like he’s doing. So while it looked like he was just hosting a silly reality show, what he was really doing was setting himself up to become a viable candidate for the presidency. And if true this shows a level of intelligence, prescience, shrewdness, and discipline that I think would serve a person very well in the presidency.
Another level of intelligence Trump seems to have is a thorough working knowledge of Alpha-maledom. He knows that he can utterly destroy an opponent and then a short time later bring them back as an ally. He accomplishes this because he understands the dynamics involved. When a guy gets destroyed like Trump’s opponents have, they come away with a sense of banishment. Because he came out on top Trump is the big dog, and because they lost to him they’ve been cast into a sort of purgatory where they’re no longer the same big shot they were before. So when Trump summons them and claps them on the shoulder and shakes their hand it puts them in his good graces and lends them a certain legitimacy and standing that allows them to regain some of the self-respect that they’d lost when he kicked their butt. Over and over again we’ve seen him behaving in a friendly way toward, and gaining fresh support from (and perhaps even appointing to key positions), people he’d previously pretty much destroyed. This is how he does it, and why he knows that no matter how bad things get between himself and an opponent, he can always make amends later and still come out on top.
So random street crime is the president’s fault now? Better arrest Obama for all the shootings in Chiraq.
Violence encouraged by Trump and his followers and done in his name isn’t “random street crime”. It’s violent persecution.
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Trump isn’t Hitler but some people would certainly like him to be.
Meanwhile, Russia is placing missiles in Kaliningradin full knowledge that President Trump will be fine with it.
It’s all going very well.
You mean like how Obama has been blamed for everything BLM has done? The selective amnesia has begun already.
D’Anconia, I’ll stand by this rather than type up a response of my own. It hits all the notes I would have liked to have hit.