So, two movies about 9/11 coming out this year...

I guess they were afraid of confusing people.

So, two feature films AND a TV movie?

For obvious reasons, a Manhattan theater pulled the Flight 93 trailer.

The whole incident was so well documented on film already with real footage of the crashes and buildings falling, and real reactions from people that were really there that the whole exercise seems pointless.
I think the few documentaries that already exsist on the topic serve it well and are more powerful than a re-enactment on film could ever be.

Even decades from now I think I’d rather show my grandchildren a documentary rather than this crap.

Remember what you know about 9/11 at this precise moment.

Granted, it won’t be as clear in your mind as it was four-and-a-bit years ago, but everyone (apart from a few conspiracists) pretty much agrees, minute by minute, what happened that terrible day. Remember what you know and fix it firm in your head, because once it gets in the the realms of docudrama, all hope of conveying it clearly to the next generation is gone.

It’s inevitable, though, since art (and "art) always arises from anything major, especially tragedy, and there’s no hope of preventing it from happening.

The trailer wasn’t warmly received in LA either. At the famed Grauman’s Chinese Theatre in Los Angeles, patrons shouted, “Too soon,”

Don’t give them ideas. I don’t want to see any Katrina movies either.

For the record, the Oliver Stone movie is not political or conspiratorial in nature. It’s just a straight ahead thriller about a group of survivors trying to escape from the building. Calling him a Nazi is bullshit, by the way. For one thing, his whole reputation as a political propogandist is based on virtually nothing. He has made exactly one (1) movie which advocated any sort of conspiracy theory (JFK). He also made Nixon but he didn’t fabricate any new conspiracies for that one. The rest of his films have consisted of several well respected films dealing with Vietnam (Platoon was based on Stone’s own experiences in Vietnam), a couple of serious but non-political dramas like Wall Street and Talk Radio and several non-political entertainments like Natural Born Killers and The Doors. I can’t understand why the guy gets so much grief. Comparing him to Riefenstahl is beyond the pale. The dude dropped out of college to volunteer for Nam. He doesn’t deserve to painted as some kind of America-hating nutcase.

Some info on World Trade Center from AICN:

I think it would be interesting if the director had the guts to show what really happened - that the flight was shot down in a remote area to prevent it from reaching its target - rather than playing into the whole “Let’s Roll” story which itself is such a Hollywood-ified fabrication in the first place.

Ummm…cite?

:rolleyes: Reifenstahl is most famous for a film that glorified the Nazis. When has Stone ever made a film that glorified al-Qaeda?

I guess that’s a valid POV . . . but how come I’ve never heard a Holocaust survivor speak that way about a Holocaust movie?

Charlie Sheen, is that you?

Assuming you’ve heard Holocaust survivors speak affirmatively about those movies, I’d say it’s because many survivors have a fear that people will forget what happened, figuratively if not literally. So I expect they’d be glad a movie is telling their story.

Umm, common sense, and the ridiculous glut of anecdotal evidence, eye witness accounts, and, ummm, common sense once more. Planes don’t just conveniently fall out of the sky into unpopulated locations, especially when it’s known that they’ve been hijacked.

If anything, it could be a brave film, showing what a terrible and gut-wrenching decision we had to make, choosing to sacrifice the lives of a few in order to save many more. Alas, we’ll get “Let’s Roll!” and a the guys karate-chopping the terr’rist while techno music pounds.

That’s rather glib, and kinda cite-less. Nobody’s said the planes just fell out of the sky.

It’s occurred to me that this is rather GD-ish, and it’s been discussed before. Maybe we should drop it.

True, but the Holocaust happened over the course of several years (including years of increasingly restrictive oppression leading up to shipping people off to the camps), and in dozens of locations throughout Europe. Some were sent off for being Jewish, some for being homosexual, some for being Gypsy, some for being resistors. Many people didn’t survive, but some did. The range of experiences of the people who went through it is extrodinarily wide. You could easily make a hundred quality movies about the holocaust with each one telling a very different story.

9/11 happened in the course of a single morning, at seven very restricted locations (the insides of three buildings and four airplanes). The people who died were simply unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or were rescue workers sent into the WTC before it collapsed. Unlike the Holocaust, most of those in the planes and buildings were unaware of what was happening until the final moments, if at all. When you add in the massive live coverage of the event, there’s much less room to create an original story of what happened that doesn’t feel like a cheap attempt to cash in.

:rolleyes: