So what really was life like in the Eastern Bloc?

I recentlly completed a trip to some former Soviet satellite states (Hungary and the Czech Republic). Prague and Budapest were very much like normal cities in Europe - buildings, shops on the bottom floors, apartments above, busy city squares, etc.

these buildings were old enough to have predated the fall of the USSR, so i’m not talking about new construction here… further, there were some businesses that claimed they were established prior to the communist government (and presumably they managed to stay in business and/or didn’t shut down entirely)

My question is this:

the stereotypical view of communist society in East Europe was that you went to your one store to get your allotment of food and housewares and that luxury goods were greatly restricted to very few people. Obviously, this was never true to such a severe degree, but what did these cities look like when they were under communist governance? were these storefronts just boarded up and unused?

basically, if someone can give me some resources or observations as to what a foreign tourist would see in these cities circa 1980 (obv. a foreign tourist with free reign of the city) that would be kind of what i’m fishing for.

I’ve nothing to add but that this is a really interesting topic and I’ll be keeping an eye on the thread.

There was an excellent 3-part documentary series on the BBC earlier this year, called The Lost World of Communism, which may interest you. It’s here on Google videos: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5302179309927381360

That reminds me, the book Comrade Rockstar is a good read and has some insight into the questions in the OP.

I also saw that documentary. It was very interesting, if you have any interest in that sort of thing well worth a watch.

Second-hand anecdote: Shortly after the fall of the Warsaw pact, a friend went to Prag (Praha) in Czechia. He says that the sidewalks were protected by wooden planking from stones and plaster from the dilapited, run-down buildings falling down. The type of stores, when tourism was only starting up, was of course different from today.

Partly with loans from the European Union, partly with private financiation, most of the old buildings in Czechia were restored in the 20 years since and now it looks pretty.

As for Poland, I’ve heard (again secondhand) that after WWII, the Poles decided out of nationalist pride to rebuild everything exactly as it was before the Nazis and the war destroyed it. Since during communism labor was cheap (and materials expensive), they could indeed recreate the old buildings in the approriate style.

Early 1980s:

Nice drive through the countryside of Holland; lush farm fields with lots of modern farm equipment working – pass through the barbed wire and concrete zig zags into East Germany; dusty, unworked fields with falling down barns and idle equipment that looked as if it had rusted out in the 1940s.

Decide to take one of the freeway exits just to have a look around – exit right, around tree-lined curve of ramp – tanks and soldiers blocking road – “Visa say Berlin. You go that way.”

Stop for gas at a very modern looking gas station / store; lots of stuff for sale, Crest toothpaste, Charmin toilet paper, etc., can only be bought with non-communist cash.

Enter West Berlin, no customs or checkpoints. Busy, bustling modern city; people everywhere, heavy traffic, parking difficult.

Go to Checkpoint Charlie to enter East Berlin (on foot) – more barbed wire, concrete zig zags, and soldiers with machine guns. Mandatory to buy some East German money, I think it was about $25.

Other side of the wall, almost no traffic on four and six lane city streets, several minutes between single cars passing by. Many (most?) building still bombed out from the war. Most buildings are vacant. Very few people walking on the street; those who are look away when I try to nod / smile; I would say they “scuttle away.” Approached by one guy offering black market money exchange; don’t know the ropes so I pass.

A refrigerator store … one on display, had the compressor sitting on top, 1930s style. The store was closed. Wandered for an hour without finding anyplace to spend the money I had been forced to buy, found cafeteria. Cost was 70 cents at the exchange rate. Boiled beef, boiled buttered potatoes, red cabbage, bread, butter, and milk, served on a stainless steel tray. It was the best food I have ever eaten, simply prepared and absolutely delicious.

I was aware that I couldn’t leave with the money so continued looking for a way to spend it; found an art museum and bought a woodblock print that still hangs on my wall.

Back to the checkpoint, put the little remaining cash in the jar, I assume the soldiers split it at some point. Much presenting of papers, then step back out into a bustling modern city.

My old boss was a 15yo living in East Berlin when the wall fell. They were all given 100DM to spend in the west when they crossed over for the first time. She told me she was just so overwhelmed by the opulence of the shops and the goods compared to the east that she couldn’t spend the money.

A co-worker had some Eastern block kids visiting and she was told not to take them to a buffet to eat at first since they would be so shocked by all the food.

Well, it was only 19 years ago…

While not the Eastern Bloc, Lalenin has posted about life in communist Cuba.

I spent some months working in Western Russia, post-Soviet era. One guy told me about living in those times. You were rationed, this many pounds of tea, so many liters of vodka, sugar, coffee, bread, all controlled. He said the thing was, if you went to the store the shelves were bare, but in people’s houses it was piled to the ceiling. He said he built three closets in his apartment to hold his stocks of rationed items. He called it a Soviet miracle.

It’s indicative of the primary problem of a planned economy, it creates scarcity. If I don’t want vodka, I don’t buy vodka, but if I don’t know if I’ll be able to buy vodka next week, I’ll buy it now just to have on hand, and I’ll wait in line to do it. The planned economy forces people to buy what they don’t need or want.

My first visit to Eastern Europe was a three day college-student-group trip to Prague. This was 1969, a year after the Soviet overthrow of the Dubcek government and his “Prague Spring.” My lasting memory is of a spontaneous hook up one evening between a group of us and a group of Prague University students. We tried to share what we had in common. Materially that was a love of rock’n’roll and beer. This was boot-leg western rock, some of it illegal, and great Czech beer, Pilsener Urquell. At the end of the night, what I remember is a common feeling, however, that our particularly self-conscious generation was not going to let the killings at Kent State and Jackson State and the Soviet clampdown (all culturally devastating, be we all unspokenly knew that the latter was unutterably worse) keep us from believing that things were going to get better. It took 20 years in Prague, and then the chaos of the transition.

In the early 80’s I was able to make several trips to Moscow. My first impression, upon landing at Sheremetyevo Airport, was that the landing, navigation, and ramp lights that pilots used at the airport were about half as bright as those in the US and Western Europe. The next was the lack of maintenance of the buildings and the infrastructure, and the lack of care. A combination, I suspected of a lack of resources, and a lack of incentive. Upon my return, almost all the Soviet experts I encountered had already come to the same conclusion. One real question at the time was whether this maintenance issue extended to the Red Army, for instance, and if so, how deeply.

As for retail stores, for instance, none of them were very large, of course. Mostly one or perhaps 2 large front windows. I was led to understand that the windows and the interior were usually filled with massive displays of the one or two items they consistently had in stock–salt, for instance. Nothing was self service, so the stores didn’t have to be filled with items. The shopper went to the counter, and was served. Goods, if they were available, were kept in a back room in many or most cases.

The stories Bill Door heard were basically true. Muscovites legendarily always carried a net shopping bag with them, in case they discovered some good unexpectedly available. Some were known to get in line at a store even if they didn’t know what the line was for; it had to be for something worthwhile and not always available.

One other eye-opener. When you parked your car, if you had one, you detached the windshield wipers and took them with you so they wouldn’t be stolen.

But the worst part wasn’t the material stuff. It was the oppression by the state, and the awful things it made people do. School teachers turning to prostitution to get some Western currency, for instance.

An interesting and easy way to pick up on some of this is to read some of Martin Cruz Smith’s “Arkady Renko” novels. In the early ones Renko is a homicide cop in the Moscow police department during the 80’s.

Lastly, I was able to tour East Germany for two weeks in 1985. All the Warsaw Pact countries were different, of course, but East Germany in many ways was remarkable. The old line was that if anyone could make such a wacky economic system work, it would be the Germans. And the economic situation there was indeed the most provident I saw in the Eastern bloc.

The other side of that was the evil of the internal security system. Schools might deliberately poison the relationship between a child and a parent. In some cases a person might inform on their spouse. I can give you details, but for me, this internal security business was the real evil of the system in the DDR.

I never visited Eastern Europe when it was still communist - I’m too young by about 15 years, unfortunately. However, I first visited the Czech Republic in 1997 and I’ve been back countless times since, for periods of time ranging from just a few days to month-long stays. I can really say that I’ve seen the city change in many ways during those years. Buildings that were falling apart have been cleaned and redecorated; in 1997 a good 80 percent of all cars were pre-1989 Škodovky - now they have become a rarity (in Prague, that is).

With regard to the way the cities must have looked, what I can tell from pictures is that it must have been a lot calmer in a lot of ways: much less cars; much less advertising, posters, billboards and the like, less extravagant store signs and store windows, just typically some empty packaging to show what might potentially be available. I don’t necessarily think there were a lot less stores, they were just fairly small and they served or were meant to serve a very small area and clientele. Of course, not everything was in short supply. Books, for instance (those that were allowed, of course) were readily available and increadibly inexpensive while still very nicely designed and printed (in the Czech Republic, that is; in most other communist countries they printed their books on the crappiest paper they could lay their hands on). Because there was not a whole lot of other ways to entertain oneself, many people were avid readers and among the older generation, vast layers of the population are surprisingly well read.

There’s this anecdote that I think is from the novel ‘Twelve Chairs’ by Il’f and Petrov in which one of the protagonists is standing outside a door on the sidewalk and people assume that if he’s standing there, waiting, there must be something in it for them. In the end, there’s a line of people waiting all around the block, and then this guy decides to leave, informing the stunned onlookers that he was meeting with a friend who didn’t show up.

Nitpick: The Netherlands never shared a border with the GDR.

In my gap year before Uni (1976) I spent six months working in Hamburg. For some reason the company had a conference in Berlin and I freeloaded.

Out of curiousity (and cowardice) I took a coach trip round East Berlin, Checkpoint Charlie was manned by teenagers, the post war architecture was gross, and even I figured that the massive granite monument to the fallen Russian dead was unlikely to be well received by the East Germans.

It felt really strange being stared at by the locals, a bit like being a wealthy and exotic animal in a cage.

I also compared W. German TV with that of the East. The Eastern offering was typically ‘Reality TV’ - hours of black and white coverage of a young couple painting a room in their flat. The West German offering would be like an unemployed guy showing off his brand new fitted kitchen, or synchroniziert episodes from The Streets of San Francisco.

Shortly post-communism (1992) I visited Moscow and Budapest on business and was surprized that the infrastructure was not as awful as I’d expected.

Heh, my family does WIC and you would not believe how much cheese and eggs we have stacked in our fridge that we’re never going to use. But “I don’t want it to go to waste” is what she says at the store… :stuck_out_tongue:

There was a book published around 1960 by Irving Levine titled “Main Street USSR” that I found in a used book store some years ago.

I am sure some of the material was dated, of course, but it was a fascinating look at every day life in the USSR. It even mentioned things mentioned above like the few people with cars took their windshield wipers with them when they parked.

I don’t know if it is still in print, but if you don’t mind it being about life there in the 1950s, it is just what you’re looking for.

My mom’s side of the family is from Poland, and I remember both the types of care packages we sent, and visiting there when I was a really little kid. This would have been during the early 80s. There was much confusing talk from the adults at the time about Lech Walesa, and I even had a little-bitty Solidarnosct-shirt! We could visit because my mother was born there, but I have no idea what kind of paperwork or possibly bribery was involved.

I remember during our (very rare) visits to Warsaw, that the water from the taps couldn’t be safely drunk, and my grandfather and I walked every day to a well to collect drinking water to make tea. I remember that the toilet paper was like single-ply sandpaper; it was brown and unlike anything I’ve ever experienced since then. Wiping with a brown paper bag would have been more comfortable.

I remember seeing bare store shelves, a whole store with only one kind of product on the shelf, and that you’d damn well better know what you want, because there’s no browsing for yourself: you ask a clerk behind a counter, who reaches it down for you, glaring the entire time. Lord Almighty, never have I seen such unfriendly store clerks, since back in pre-capitalist Poland.

You bought only the food you would eat that day. A little bread, a little milk, some butter, some sliced cold cuts or piece of chicken. Maybe a couple of eggs, maybe a potato or two. The next morning, you went out and bought a little more food for the day.

Anyway, the packages we put together to send over make the place sound positively Third World now. Lots of toilet paper - the fluffy stuff! and it was white! - and also basic supplies like soap and dried fruit and soup. Dog kibble for the pooches; not only was there literally no such thing as “dog food” there at the time, but I remember seeing MOST people there simply feeding their dogs scraps of thickly buttered bread while they were eating their own buttered bread. You had a peeled, boiled potato for lunch? Your dog had a bite of boiled potato for his lunch. But Warsaw was then - and still is - an extremely dog-friendly city. Little old ladies with their mini dachshunds everywhere!

I’ll come back and post more if I think of anything else salient.

My apologies. That was kinda stream-of-consciousness, but you know how fragmented early childhood memories can be.

How thoroughly would they check to make sure you weren’t smuggling any East German marks back? Would they make you open up your wallet, turn your pockets inside out, etc.?

I don’t recall there being much in the line of search walking out of East Berlin, just multiple guards comparing our passport pictures to our faces. When driving out of East Germany they did search the car in places that could conceivably conceal a person.

Later on that trip when entering England the customs agent questioned why we had two recent stamps on our passports from the DDR. When I honestly told him we just wanted to see what it was like we were searched thoroughly, page by page through paperback books, every scrap of paper, every seam on every piece of clothing in our luggage, etc.

Švejk … Nitpick: The Netherlands never shared a border with the GDR.
Ah. We rented a car in Amsterdam and drove around Belgium, Luxembourg, and France as well as East and West Germany. Sorry if my European geography is hazy; the point of the story was the contrast on different sides of the border.