So, where did the Democrats go wrong?

No, it depends upon how you examine the population. Example: a population where 1% commit suicide and 99% do not. If a treatment improves the quality of life for the 99%, but not the 1%, then that is still a net improvement in QOL for the population. This is why when trained medical researchers, physicians, counselors, psychologists, and psychiatrists report that quality of life improves for high majority of the patients, we can conclude that is a net improvement regardless of whether there is no reduction in raw suicide rates. Something which there is no conclusive or even good data to really show one way or the other.

You’ve repeatedly declined to give your medical or experiential bona fides for why you believe your judgement on this subject is better than many major medical authorities and bodies around the world, who have examined the evidence and believe that treatment works. Why is that? Why are they all wrong, and you right? The psychologists and psychiatrists I work with don’t seem to have any problems accepting that treatment improves QOL, nor do their licensing, professional, and governing bodies.

Your position as you’ve expressed it is that no other metric applies to judging benefit in this case than suicide rates. I’ve asked you before about antidepressants which work but are known to increase suicide rates, and you declined to reply in that instance and moved onto another thread. And remember well when you did the shuck and jive when Even Sven and others tried to get you to admit whether you believe people like me are women? I mean for shame.

A self-admitted hater of transgender persons cries crocodile tears over the fact that fellow haters of transgender persons are placed in power due to widespread right-wing bigotry in this country. Wow. I’ve read stranger things on the SDMB, I…guess? :smack:

And since Trump views any criticism whatsoever as an “attack”, that justifies him saying anything he wants about anyone else. Which is handy.

But he wasn’t “defending himself”, was he? Mostly he was just being an oversensitive asshole.

its simple: the Democratic Party, under Obama, moreso under his second term than his first (meaning after he was free from the restrains of being re-elected) has become the party of Islam, Socialism, and Transgenders.

Identity politics is the short answer. Once the Republicans directly played identity politics, our groups beat their groups.

The Democrats also took their eye off the ball during the midterms. They lost big, but didn’t really seem to do anything about it, plus never seemed to realize that the extra black voters Obama brought in only wanted to vote for him and no one else

my main issues were Trump’s temperament, foreign policy, abortion rights, and stem-cell research. Those are why I didn’t vote for him, tho I wish him luck now. Even for as much as I think violence against self-identified transgenders is wrong, I don’t believe in the idea that gender is something you can just change on the fly. All the arguments for it are based on meta-physical gender studies and even the pseudo-scientific studies have serious flaws. And there comes a point where you have to accept the things you cannot change, the courage to change those you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. I can’t just cut my legs off, get some long prosthetics, and say I’m “trans-tall.” Why can people do that with gender? Also, I still don’t know the difference between a transgender “woman” and a super twink gay guy.

And you think that they’re “repulsive” and “disgusting” (your words) and don’t think it’s bigoted to call them that.

Says the guy on record saying bigoted things about Muslims and trans people, and who also apparently has no concept of what socialism is.

:rolleyes: y’know, on gender issues there is MUCH you do not know…

If you don’t want Hiroshima, don’t start Pearl Harbor.

Trump was defending himself. Trump’s opponents, and the Democrat collective, whined when Trump pushed back. How dare Trump defend himself from Democrat groupthink, and bullying. He’s such an anti-bully bully and you don’t like him. :rolleyes:

Hillary, the DNC, Hillary worshipers, and the Democrat collective completely misjudged the voters. Why? Because they prefer not to listen to anyone who didn’t want a Hillary presidency.

More like “If you don’t want Hiroshima, don’t park in Trump’s parking spot.”

Oh that poor, poor man! Won’t someone think of the billionaires?

Just like he pushed back against all those people who dared to ask him for the money he owed them, or how he pushed back against that Miss Universe contestant, or how he threatened to push back against all those other women who claimed that he sexually assaulted them. All in self-defense!

He’s not an “anti-bully bully”; he’s a regular bully and proud of it. It’s even in his books.

Trump bravely pushed a racist and fact free conspiracy theory when Obama committed the terrible transgression against Trump of being a black president.

This is not particularly germane…but watching Obama and his bad turkey puns,I couldn’t help but ponder Trump in the same situation. I don’t think he’s made a witty comment in his life…the man has no sense of humor whatsoever (remember the Al Smith dinner fiasco?)

He does seem have a bit of an issue with lightening up. It happens but he seems to have trouble switching it on with the ease of someone used to a spotlight he does not own. Even when delivering his conciliatory Thanksgiving message he did not look relaxed at all.

Yeah, I think you’re basically right.

You know who was good at that kind of economic work? Franklin D. Roosevelt. He didn’t get it all right the first time, nor the second, but he kept trying things. That’s admirable.

The scapegoating of trans people seems to ignore that there was a governor’s race where transgender rights were an explicit part of the campaign, and the Republican lost, despite being in a state that Trump won by 4 points.

More like that he could come so close with such sagging approval ratings shows that were it not for the issue, McCrory woulda lost decisively.

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What difference, at this point, does it make?

  • Hillary Clinton

The Clintons are worth millions and their influence-peddling foundation is sucking up more bucks every day. It appears that somebody is thinking of the billionaires.

With both Clintons out of office, how much “influence” do they have to peddle? Charity Watch gives the Clinton Foundation an A. Its goals:

Strangely, there’s no listing for the Trump Foundation. Here’s some news!