So why does no one recognise Somililand ?

So Somaliland has been independent from Somalia in all but name for 16 years. Unlike Somilia it is stable and has a functioning government.

Why is it not recognized by the international comunity. Its not like Somilia is a superpower no-one wants to get in the bad-books of. And you’d think given its strategic location in the war on terror we would want to incourgage a stable pro-western ally.

In general, governments are picky when it comes to recognizing newly established states, partially because they do not want to create precedents for secessionist movements elsewhere. This even extends to the so-called “failed states,” such as Somalia. The current practice is to regard Somalia as a nation which continues to exist as an entity under international law; it is simply temporarily (well, for quite a while now, but still not definitely) unable to act because there is no stable and effective government controlling the country. Even is the situation in Somaliland is better because there is effective government there, this does not mean Somaliland is a state on its own independent of Somalia. Somaliland’s territory is still considered as part of Somalia, even though Somalia is currently unable to act.

Usually, things like this are coordinated at the international level - governments do not wish to jump ahead recognizing newly established countries without asking their allies first. Germany experienced the consternation this could create when it recognized Slovenia and, subsequently, other formerly Yugoslav republics without consulting with the other European countries. If there is no political advantage to be harvested, I don’t think any statesman would bother to step forward in such a matter.

Because who can take a country that has “-land” at the end of its name seriously?

What’s next, Iraqiland? Israeliland?

Come on folks, let Disney do their thing. Just because it worked for them, etc.

England? Scotland? Ireland? Iceland? Finland? Not taken seriously?

England, Ireland, N. Ireland, Scotland

Ok you can probably get away making fun of Ireland, N. Ireland & Scotland, but England has nukes.

What was that sound I just heard?

Yeah, but those don’t count since an “Eng” by itself doesn’t really signify anything.

Although come to think of it, “Iceland” is a pretty corny name.

And Greenland, Switzerland, Swaziland, New Zealand, Poland, and Thailand.

Not to mention all those “-stan” countries, which means “land of.”

You know, you make a good point friedo. We really could stand to be a little more creative when it comes to naming our countries. :stuck_out_tongue:

Whooshland?

No one recognizes it , as it has recently seceded from the Republic of Whooshia.

I’ve just spent a good part of the morning reading this: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmhansrd/vo040204/halltext/40204h03.htm.

It’s a “debate” about the subject that took place in the UK House of Commons in early 2004. I was hoping that, being a debate and all, we’d hear some opposing points of view, but it ended up turning into some kind of hippie lovefest, what with all the Members from opposing parties wholeheartedly agreeing that Somaliland needs recognition. Still, it’s a fascinating read.

I reckon these quotes are quite telling:

It’s quite possibly the same case for other nations, too. Everyone’s happy to recognise Somaliland, but nobody wants to be accused of trying to split Somalia up.

Right at the end we have this conclusion (bolding mine):

Unfortunately for Somaliland, this debate happened shortly after the Transitional Federal Government formed. The world had (and still has) high hopes for the TFG, and didn’t want to do anything that might impede its progress.

Nobody recognises Somaliland, because it combs its hair back & wears glasses, like Clark Kent.

The difference between Somaliland and the myriads of other self-proclaimed countries is that Somaliland really has a functioning administration. It issues bank notes, polices its cities, maintains infrastructure and does, domestically, everything other countries do too.

One more thing to Rigamarole: Somaliland did not invent this name. Several European powers used to have dependencies in that region named French, British, and Italian Somaliland before the formation of Somalia. So it seems Somalia is the invented goof name.

Edit: Miscoding

Does it have a flag?

Dammit, this was my one reason for opening this thread!

Doesn’t it? (Posted from East Anglia, if that’s a hint :wink: )

Flag of Somaliland.

Eddie Izzard