Every now and then I let youtube tempt me into the whirling maelstrom around Harry, Meghan, and their kids. The latest version had someone speculating on whether Meghan could have really given birth to Archie and be back home at wherever it was in exactly two hours, plus a lot of stuff about some decree from 1600-whatever about who has to witness the royal births, and there being a code that is one off from what it should be if Lilibet was in fact born where they claim she was.
Basically a whole half hour vid over how maybe the Sussex kids aren’t who they’re supposed to be. (Why it matters…exactly how far down would they be anyway? Is someone planning a royal massacre?)
What struck me is nobody even mention the obvious to me: can’t they just do a DNA test and know for sure? I remember at the wedding seeing stories about her having at least one sister, and her parents were both alive. Ghod knows there can’t be a shortage of potential comparisons on his side, what, they have that line traced out for hundreds of people in some published book, I think.
So why not just routinely do a blood swab/cheek swab of newborns and avoid all this potential foofarah?
Or are they terrified that other ‘discrepancies’ might also be revealed?
Because why the fuck should they? How does it benefit them? So what would happen next? The halfwit assholes who care about this would claim that it was a fake test.
'Zactly. You don’t make a CT go away by presenting evidence to the contrary. The idjit believers are gonna believe whatever idjit idea they want to; evidence be damned.
For a topic other than the Royals, the best thing to do is for everyone everywhere, including the target, to laugh and point at the idjits. As noted above, the Firm is above criticism; they simply refuse to engage as a matter of policy & priniciple.
Can’t WHO just do a DNA test? Would YOU give your own kids DNA tests just because somebody somewhere thinks there’s something fishy in their parentage?
If half-wits can insist that Covid-19 was wildly exaggerated due to faulty PCR tests (there are lots of them posting on Twitter), they’d be equally likely to proclaim that DNA tests are “fixed”.
Do you think that the people buying into these conspiracies would believe DNA test results? Their parents don’t have any concerns about who the kids belong to. No one has come forward to lay claim to the kids.
Side note: They do, and I had some distant relative-by-marriage (a second spouse of my actual relative) who was listed in that book, rather far down the line of succession. I wish I could remember who it was, but I remember she was related to the late Queen Mum’s family, Bowes-Lyon. It’s been years since I stopped doing genealogical research about my family.
Legitimacy is not, has never been, a matter of genetics. We know this because of the tremendous number of people who are 100% the child of a royal but still illegitimate.
Henry Fitzroy, son of Henry VIII, a king who really, really, wanted a son would have Henry’s DNA but still be illegitimate.
I could see a royal who really really wanted our of the corporation getting a DNA test in the hopes or would show they were illegitimate. I can’t think of anyone else with a motive to do that test.
Though the genetics are still incredibly important. Royal bastards have always had very high status because of who their biological father was, even if they are almost never considered heirs to the throne
Only because they didn’t exist historically. It’s actually a way human relations have changed massively in the last few decades, that’s not talked about. For all of human history there were rumors about who people’s biological parents were, but it was usually impossible to prove anything. Now it is possible to prove that.
One historical example (I just heard on Prime Time prime ministers podcast) that would absolutely have made a difference to the government of great Britiain one way or another was Lord North, the PM during the American Revolution. Everyone was sure he was closely genetically related to the king George III, because the resemblance was so strong. The thing was no one knew how he was related, he could have been an illegitimate son of George’s father the then Prince of Wales, or George III could have actually been his father’s illegitimate son. Both situations were plausible given the events.
It’s an obvious idea, but what I read years ago was that it was so obvious that the British tabloid press really had done testing. If you’ve got the money, you can test all kinds of samples, and Harry wasn’t a “boy in a bubble”.
I mean, the cops have been known to covertly tail suspects for weeks and wait for them to throw away a plastic spoon or a straw at a restaurant so they can grab it and get a DNA sample.
The tabloids could maybe have got their hands on Harry and Meghan’s DNA years ago, but the kids? I dunno.
Yeah, not the kids, I was referring to the pictures of Harry and James Hewitt.
Harry is on record that he sort of believed the rumours himself, they were so widespread and so damaging.
I’ve long believed that part of Harry’s problem is that he hasn’t forgiven the popular press – and the readers – for killing his mother. If the job requires him to be polite to people who persecute his wife and question the parentage of his children, then the job can get stuffed.
I could believe this might have happened, its not unfeasible technically, and the UK tabloids would certainly have not been too moral to try something like that. Except I don’t believe it would never have gotten out. I can see the royal family would have enough clout (both behind the scenes via the old boys club and legally via super injuctions. etc.) keep it out of the front page of the British tabloids. It would have leaked eventually somewhere. There is no way it would have stayed secret.
Edit: I was also talking about harry and Charles and their paternal relationship. This thing with his kids is an insane racist CT
If they used a surrogate, what’s to find? His sperm, her egg. Nothing to see there.
But doesn’t the phrase, ‘naturally born’ come into play? That’s what I thought the fight was about. But I’m not following things closely, so I could be misinformed.