So, why vote for Clinton?

[Lok]

@Quartz

From my UK POV the Republicans are the opposition to Obama and the Democrats, so it’s their duty to oppose him.

And that’s a good reason for many to vote against her. She is the epitome of the system that has failed them - so they think.

Well, here in the US, they are supposed to oppose, but compromise where possible. When the opposition not only refuses to compromise, but votes against their own bills when the president agrees to them, they have gone beyond the bounds of principled opposition.

[doorhinge]

@Johnny_L.A

I expect Clinton to maintain the status quo.

Which is reason enough to vote for her instead of Trump.

I also expect Hillary to maintain the status quo. With the addition of a plethora of executive privilege claims. Shhhhhh. Silence is golden and it’s nobodies business what Hillary is up to.

Which is reason enough to vote for Bernie, and then for Trump.

[doorhinge]

@Quartz

From my UK POV the Republicans are the opposition to Obama and the Democrats, so it’s their duty to oppose him.

And that’s a good reason for many to vote against her. She is the epitome of the system that has failed them - so they think.

It’s the duty of our elected representatives in both houses of Congress to represent THEIR constituents. That’s why they were elected to office. It’s not their duty to blindly follow a President or blindly oppose a President. In theory.

It’s the duty of the loyal opposition (I love that British term) to present other, possibly better, options.

Good government is based on an ability to compromise. Currently, neither side is willing to compromise with the boneheads on the other side of the aisle. The end result is stalemate (which can be preferred to the passing of bad legislation).

[Voyager]

@doorhinge

I also expect Hillary to maintain the status quo. With the addition of a plethora of executive privilege claims. Shhhhhh. Silence is golden and it’s nobodies business what Hillary is up to.

If Hillary does the same awful job Obama did the Dow will be sitting at 30,000 or so in 8 years and unemployment will be around 2.5%.
The horror!

[Try2B_Comprehensive]

@Try2B_Comprehensive

My 2 cents: I think that Hillary can be fierce and hard-edged. I can’t put my finger on exactly what Obama has that Hillary doesn’t, but whatever it is, I think Hillary will be a less demure and passive-seeming president than him (focusing on the optics too much is unfair to Obama though, I think he does a good job without needing a lot of attention). We’ve had 8 years of this obstructionist bullshit, Hillary has been at a high level in politics that whole time, but with real presidential power, I don’t know, I just think she will approach America’s problems with force. I really do.

I think she will at least appear more pointed in confronting obstructionism. She won’t just have her own abilities, she’ll have Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and inherit an incumbent’s administration. I think she will be a tough, powerful president. She doesn’t just have the knowledge and experience of power to wield it effectively, she has the math and science on her side, and the weight of precedent. Trickle-down economics doesn’t work- common sense could have told us that before we tried it, but we did, and it doesn’t. Of course climate change isn’t a hoax- if you can follow the argument you can see that. Government can create jobs without becoming the USSR because, look! We’ve been doing it the whole time! She’ll pursue the right policies with focus and vigor, and the trogs can just gnash their teeth, too bad.

It is true that my view boils down partly to a perception or a feeling. But I think Hillary would be formidable as president, somebody people might hesitate to fuck with, somebody that will get things done.

@Simplicio

I doubt the Clinton campaign is releasing the juciest bits of their oppo-research in the first week of October, either.

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(http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19683779&postcount=11)]
I think we are witnessing the opening salvos of Hillary’s carpet bombing of The Donald. Dispatching him will be but the first of her expressions of power. She’ll be limited even if Congress turns blue, but I am telling you, Clinton will be powerful as president.