That is the problem though. There are a lot of people that you might consider to be immature that are having sex, and the price that you want them to pay for their immaturity is an increased risk of disease or unwanted pregnancy.
Well, what price do you think they should pay?
I mean, they can either do what needs to be done to not have unprotected sex, or do what needs to be done to decrease the risk of an unwanted pregnancy or …. what?
Righteous indignation is such a mature character trait :rolleyes:
By asking for your help they are trying to decrease risks.
Why do you want them to pay the price of a possible drastic change to
the rest of their life ?
Where did I say that I wanted them to “pay the price of a possible drastic change to the rest of their life”?
Oh that’s right, I didn’t. All I said was that if they think they are ready to have sex, they should be ready to do all the other things that encompass the wonderful world of sex, not just the penis-in-the-vagina part.
They aren’t asking for help because they are incapable, they are asking for help because they are unwilling.
I have no issue buying condoms for the kids, male type and female type. I would be really hesitant about the plan B, but I would offer to take her to an out of area store so she could get it from a place that nobody knows her at. Or a Planned Parenthood/equivalent free clinic. I would have no problem buying a couple pregnancy test kits.
You are [virtually] looking at someone who paid half the cost for an abortion for a just out of HS 18 year old girlfriend of one of my best HS buddies. He did eventually pay me back by borrowing the money from his father to ‘buy my almost new Castle cross country skis, boots and poles’ when I had to give up skiing as a ‘christmas present’ for his girlfriend. She actually did get them, and the value did match up with my skiing kit, but I was actually giving them to him to give her because I was supposed to be a para and not walk again. I was willing to give him the money to get him out of trouble, and the doc gave her a scrip for the pill as a result. They both got a severe talking to by me about the whole issue. Silly 18 year olds - wrong brain gets in control.
Apart from explaining where and what the local Planned Parenthood/Family Planning Association is, I would point out that if their parents found out about their purchases from the pharmacist/counter staff, it would be a violation of HIPAA/Medical Privacy rules/ethics and that the pharmacist would lose their licence over such a thing (in a perfect world).
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Give a man a condom, and he’ll fuck for a day. Teach him how to buy them himself, and he’ll fuck forever.
I don’t know what I’d do. I think the best thing to do would be to direct them to Planned Parenthood or some similar source for contraception. Hell, there are condom machines in a lot of gas station bathrooms. I’d worry about the skeeviness of it–is there some sort of law I’m not aware of that treats my buying condoms for a teenager as a sex crime? (Yes, that’s paranoid, so sue me). Is this some sort of Family Research Council sting operation? Is that anti-ACORN asshole behind a camera somewhere, and I’m about to be all over Youtube? Directing the kids toward appropriate resources, while congratulating them on their responsibility, seems the best solution.
Condoms- yep, without question. I do live somewhere where the age of consent is 16, and damn few of my friends held out for that…
Also, I’ve lived in a small village- I know what it’s like where everyone knows everyone, and information will get passed around.
The girl’s getting a damn lecture about using proper protection, and I’ll strongly encourage her to go talk to the pharmacist herself, but if she’s adamant, and seems genuinely to know what she’s doing, I’ll probably get the pills.
Either could get a lift to the nearest free clinic, which will not pass on the gossip, if they weren’t too utterly embarrassed, or nervous about getting a lift from passing mad women.
I know the condom one happened to a friend of mine recently- kid was too embarrassed to ask the pharmacist (why he didn’t just go to some other shop, I don’t know), so asked my friend. Who looks dead young, but also happens to actually be a pharmacist… Oddly pleasing.
The thing is, the issue of “ready to have sex” is irrelevant. They are physically capable of having sex, so they will. Whether they are emotionally prepared and have all the trappings that go along with safe sex is irrelevant, they can have sex, so they will. If they are denied contraception, or too embarrassed to use it or purchase it, they will just do it anyway without. The idea that they should have to pay a price for that decision to have sex before they were emotionally mature enough to protect themselves is absurd. What price should they pay for being embarrassed about a topic that we don’t spend any time in our culture teaching kids how to be sexually confident about? None, they should pay no price at all for that.
Unless you really think some teenager is going to have a moment of realization that because they are too embarrassed to buy condoms at the local pharmacy they probably should not have sex.
So, what, I’m the servant of these kids? The world is going into starvation mode because I didn’t jump when the kid said to, and now, because I don’t do what they want me to do, the world is overpopulated?
Nope. The kids are screwed in the head on their own. They will breed anyway. If I buy the devices tonight, next weekend when they are too high to get up and out, they will have the unprotected sex, and laugh about it. They will, kindly, think about handsomeharry and say “I wish he was here to buy that stuff for us.” And proceed to have sex.
I would also be worried what would happen to ME when their parents find out that I was buying birth control devices for kids. True, the girl is 18, but, it’s amazing how an 18 year old girl becomes a tot in the legal world, when sex is involved.
If the kids need protection, let them go to their schools like everybody else!
Yes. All of these things will happen. You have accurately summarized every other post in this thread.
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I don’t want teenagers breeding, so I would buy for them. If they caught me in the right mood they might even get me to pay for the birth control if they appear earnest enough when I ask them to promise to use it.
When I was a teen we would “befriend” a street-person/alcoholic and pay him to buy us alcohol. I would tell the kid about this and get on with my life.
Not to fight the hypothetical, but a 15 year old who is too embarrassed to ask a pharmacist to sell him a rubber, but not too embarrassed to ask a stranger to buy it for him?
Maybe I would go up to the counter, point to the kid, and say
**“HEY MR. PHARMACIST!!! SEE THAT KID OVER THERE IN THE BLUE HOODIE? HE WANTS TO BUY A RUBBER SO HE CAN FUCK HIS GIRLFRIEND!!! HOW MUCH ARE THEY?” **
Then toss them to him and say, “Here ya go, kid. Have fun!”
Regards,
Shodan
No, but I’d offer to drive them to the nearest retail pharmacy with a different pharmacist (or Planned Parenthood, if it’s close by). Being able to buy your own condoms is a prerequisite to using them, in my opinion. And to get Plan B, there is some important information the girl needs to give the pharmacist.
While I’m sympathetic to these kids’ needs, I don’t feel comfortable acting in the capacity of pharmacist or doctor.
Yes without a doubt
Not my kids, either one of them, so I’m not going to take on the responsibility of raising them, and this is part of raising them. I’d just snarl at them until they went away.