Social Security for Illegal Workers

[What_the]

Last week the Senate voted to allow illegal workers to collect social security.

Anybod know how they propose to give credit when it wasn’t reported as having been earned by someone with a valid SS#? Are they going to be able to come forward and show that they received earnings under a fake number?

[Walloon]

You’re misstating what happened.

Social Security: Voting 50-49, senators on Thursday tabled (killed) an amendment to prevent immigrants legalized under S 2611 from receiving credit for Social Security contributions made while working illegally. This affirmed a provision allowing them eventual full credit for all payroll contributions.

[What_the]

I appologize …

can you explain the provision it affirmed that would allow eventual full credit.

[Walloon]

Section 214 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 414). Basically, the Senate affirmed the long-standing law that if you paid the Social Security payroll tax over a certain time period (see link), you are entitled to Social Security benefits.

[Walloon]

The relevant text from Senate Amendment 3985, which was tabled:

PRECLUSION OF SOCIAL SECURITY CREDITS PRIOR TO ENUMERATION.

(a) INSURED STATUS.–Section 214 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 414) is amended by adding at the end, the following new subsection:

``(d)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), no quarter of coverage shall be credited for purposes of this section if, with respect to any individual who is assigned a social security account number on or after the date of enactment of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, such quarter of coverage is earned prior to the year in which such social security account number is assigned.

``(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply with respect to any quarter of coverage earned by an individual who, at such time such quarter of coverage is earned, satisfies the criterion specified in subsection ©(2).’’.

[What_the]

It sounds to me like they were trying to prevent someone who had earnings prior to the date that they became legal and were assigned a number from coming forward and saying… “Hey you know all that money reported under bogus number xxx-xx-xxxx, that was me !!!”

[PooterMommy]

Iam so sick of this subject. I am sick of hearing they do jobs that we won’t do. When the truth is that they will do those jobs for half the wage. If we would have inforced the laws to begin with we would not have this (infestation) like we have now. English or spanish English *** *** IT// not UNITED STATE OF MEXICO. You broke the law now go home and try again. The way our ansesters did.

[Guinastasia]

@PooterMommy

Iam so sick of this subject. I am sick of hearing they do jobs that we won’t do. When the truth is that they will do those jobs for half the wage. If we would have inforced the laws to begin with we would not have this (infestation) like we have now. English or spanish English *** *** IT// not UNITED STATE OF MEXICO. You broke the law now go home and try again. The way our ansesters did.

You mean by stealing lands from the Native Americans AND the Mexicans?

:dubious:

[Walloon]

Folks, keep in mind these this is the “General Questions” board, not “Great Debates”.

[Imasquare]

@PooterMommy

You broke the law now go home and try again. The way our ansesters did.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

Was this just BS?

[xash]

@PooterMommy

Iam so sick of this subject. I am sick of hearing they do jobs that we won’t do. When the truth is that they will do those jobs for half the wage. If we would have inforced the laws to begin with we would not have this (infestation) like we have now. English or spanish English *** *** IT// not UNITED STATE OF MEXICO. You broke the law now go home and try again. The way our ansesters did.

PooterMommy, your comments are out of line for GQ. Please do not repeat this.

Thanks.

-xash
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