Socialised health care, Australia style

Well, excuse me. I didn’t offer any prayer, btw.
I’m simply happy for you.

If you can’t accept that, I am sorry for you.
:frowning_face_with_open_mouth:
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I woke up nauseasted today. A low fever. Freezing and shivering.
My daughter put a fire in the woodstove.(I don’t think we’ve ever had a fire in May)
Of course my BG was erractic.
We called the doctor line.
They were to call back in 15-30 min.
As we waiting I realized my foot hurt.
Took off my sock.
Bright red big toe.

I was in the examining room as soon as we could drive 27miles.

No money changed hands.
No selling my soul to satan. No blood letting, oh…wait. That’s not true. They did take blood.

Pleasant waiting area. Pleasant reception. Pleasant nurses. Pleasant doctor. Although I hate him. He likes to incarcerate me into the hospital. I believe he gets a some kinda thrill out of it.

Anyway. I home. Safe. Bank account intact.
Foot still hurts. Xray said it wasn’t broken.
Not gout.
Doc decided I must have bumped it.
I do sit on my feet at times.

I’ll take any good wishes anyone cares to offer. And accept them graciously.
Maybe not in this thread.
As it seems to bum some folks out.

What about the ten states that rejected the Medicaid expansion to the ACA?
https://stateline.org/2024/07/19/in-the-10-states-that-didnt-expand-medicaid-1-6m-cant-afford-health-insurance/

Nearly 1 of every 5 uninsured working-age adults across the 10 states that have not expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act are, according to a new analysis, stuck in a health care limbo known as a “coverage gap.” That means they earn too much money to receive Medicaid but not enough to qualify for financial help to purchase their own plan on the marketplace.

In Alabama and Mississippi, more than a quarter of uninsured working-age adults are left with no affordable pathways to health coverage, according to the analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a progressive think tank that researches federal and state budget policies. Overall, 1.6 million adults between the ages of 19 and 64 face the situation in the non-expansion states.

Beckdawreck, this is the Australia healthcare thread.

I realize this.

Your local hospital took your Medicare and Medicaid (running the claims through in that order) only because they HAD to. Most likely, neither platform pays enough to cover the hospital’s own costs.

Don’t have those.
Private insurance.

Let us know when and if you get a bill later.

I won’t. Goes directly to my insurance.

The stuff they did to me, the people that did it deserve to get paid.
I’m all for that.

The problem that people are glossing over is this shit ain’t cheap.
The issue is the prices of these services and the price of medications.
We got to get costs down.
Patient care should not suffer for lack of funds. It’s nearly criminal.

This is not just a US problem.

You had no co-pay? I thought the standard mantra of conservatives was “if there’s no co-pay the system will be abused and people will go to the doctor or hospital for frivolous reasons”. (Like maybe a swollen toe! :wink: ) I find it hard to believe that any private insurance pays 100% for anything.

BTW, I used to get into arguments with a poster on a different message board who was an absolutely staunch defender of the US health care system. “Best system in the world”. “UHC sucks”. That sort of thing.

Then a few months later there was another post from him in a different forum where he ranted about his daughter being admitted to hospital, and the hospital demanded thousands of dollars upfront before they would treat her (or possibly before they would even admit her – I don’t really remember). He was absolutely livid. I don’t blame him. I just blame him for not recognizing that that’s the nature of a profiteering health care system.

No. I’ve met my deductible in about a week into the new year.

Those are republican lies to scare folks.

No hospital has ever demanded money upfront, from me. And I’ve been to plenty.

I know we have problems here. I’m willing to appreciate UHC for Canada and Australia. That it works wonderfully.

Don’t believe the crap you read online. People like to grouse.

Must be lies if it hasn’t happened to you.

You really don’t think republicans lie? Alot?
Wow.

All I can go by is what my experience is. Why can"t I brag about it?

I am reading stats on UHC where I can find them. I’m learning.
My big problem is ya’ll have had this system many years.
What would you say if the government decided to nix it and change everything in short order?
I wouldn’t live long enough for my healthcare change dramatically.
I cannot even consider it a “good” thing.

I guess I could just sacrifice myself for the cause. Would you?
But if yours is working for you, great.

(Oh, that might be thought and a prayer territory. Sorry.)

I live in a progressive region where I don’t think a hospital could get away with demanding payment up front. I can certainly believe it happens in other states.

My providers will often ask at the appointment for any co-pays which they know won’t be covered by my insurance. Then they bill me for any remainder.

I can’t even.

There are laws. EMTALA.
Hospitals can’t refuse treatment.
Or demand money.

(I guess its still a law. Circa 1980s)

Kambuckta bragged. I was happy for her. Said so. A few times.
Much to her displeasure.

I can’t even, either.

Oh FFS.

Moderating:

Hey, everyone. This is the Australian healthcare thread. In MPSIMS. It’s not the pit. Let’s try to stick to the topic and not snipe at each other.

@Beckdawrek , @needscoffee , @Velocity , that includes all of you.

Please continue to learn. Universal health care systems have been established in civilized countries for at least half a century or in some cases more than a century.

In Canada, the only place about which I can speak about it authoritatively, it’s politically untouchable. The chances that “the government decided to nix it and change everything in short order” are zero.

Unless, of course, we involuntarily become the “51st state”! :winking_face_with_tongue:

Sure they can! This is America – freedumb, and all that!

EMTALA only means that hospitals that want to continue receiving Medicate/Medicaid federal funds can’t refuse treatment. In reality, patient dumping happens all the time. That’s the best case. The worst case is they’re just dumped out into the streets. What a terrific health care system!

Thank you. That clears that up for me.

And since I’ve been stopped from the ability to tell of my experiences in the US. I’ll have to learn elsewhere. I guess.

@wolfpup if you find any valuable resources I can read, PM me a link. I will read it.