I saw them, but I was looking for them. My wife wasn’t, and she didn’t notice them.
I didn’t see his legs either.
But I do see you, EH!
So when they cut to the first scene of Han as a soldier in the middle of a battle, did anyone else assume that the Imperial recruiter just lied to Han and sent him too infantry boot camp, instead of flight school?
Whew!
Oh, for sure. I think that was the intended joke, which did get a laugh. But then they had to kind of retcon it later in the story to explain Han’s piloting proficiency.
I finally saw it , and while I liked it, something about it just didn’t “pop” for me like Rogue One.
It’s kind of hard to describe, but I think it suffers from what I call “The Abrams Effect,” a term I coined after the Star Trek franchise reboot.
Basically, and just IMO, Solo, like Star Trek, is a series of “decent” to “good” action scenes/special-effect extravaganzas, daisy-chained together by a weak overall story.
There’s solid acting/performances all around, good characterizations (and since this is a younger, still-forming Han Solo, comparisons to Harrison Ford/Ep.4 are unfair, IMO), even decent dialog/chemistry, but something is just…not quite coming together, not quite coming into focus.
Maybe there’s no sense of the “Grand” in Solo; like Rogue One, Solo is a story about people, caught up in bigger events. Unlike Rogue One, where small actions at the beginning leads to fleets duking it out for the survival of Freedom/Justice ™ in the Galaxy, Solo is more like Ocean’s Eleven.
In Space.
I haven’t seen the movie, but just learned that it was directed by Ron Howard, so now I think I’ll go!
He didn’t go.
Sorry, just simulating Howard’s narration on Arrested Development
Agreed.
Agreed on both points. I particularly liked the “girl talk” scene with L3 and Qi’ra in the Falcon’s cockpit.
Nope.
Heh. I like her plenty, either way.
All good questions!
Pretty much how I reacted, too.
I could go for this (although I could do without Cad Bane or Hondo).
Yeah, that was probably part of it.
It’s already happened in the canon Lucasfilm produced animated web series Star Wars: Forces of Destiny. The episode that premiered the same day *Solo *was released features Hondo and IG-88 teaming up to collect a bounty on Qi’ra.
Thanks for that, I watched the 1st 4(?) Forces of Destiny and forgot about them – I may have to catch up
Brian
I went in with zero expectations, and thought it was great. Ron Howard’s directing style is a perfect fit with this new Disney-fied Star Wars universe. And the fact that it was written by Lawrence Kasdan (and his kid!) helped a lot, too.
My favorite line was, “I’ve got a really good feeling about this!” Which not only was funny, but showed that Han was younger and less cynical in his youth.
Finally saw it. Geez, was it DARK. And I am not talking thematically. The image was frustratingly dark. My wife and I couldn’t discern faces or what was going until they got to the refinery planet. It was bad. I don’t know if the projector was turned down low, but it was miserable. As far as the movie goes, (what we could see) it was enjoyable.
But those of you trying to establish a timeline based on ages and whatever in the Star Wars universe, wouldn’t years be counted differently if you were from a different planet? I mean, Kasshyyk may orbit its star 4 times as many as Correllia orbits its star. Unless, there’s some standardized universal “Year” they’ve established.
I’ve got to assume there’s been a galactic establishment of standard time, just like the Western notions of hours and minutes and seconds (and time zones) are now in use all over planet Earth.
Too many pundits are reacting to these movies from a limited point of view, like they’re TV shows that can dodge and weave depending on ratings; but huge VFX tentpole movies take years and years to make, and they don’t have the luxury to react on a dime. They also can take years to be accepted and looked at objectively. The “Exit Poll” approach is not a good guide for anything, especially epic sagas that resonate through pop culture and appeal to wide audiences.
Lucasfilm prepped Solo years ago, probably during the production of The Force Awakens. They had no reason to expect it to fail, and there’s only so much course correcting they could’ve done if it looked like it might fail. The best they could do is replace the Directors when they had troubles on set, which they felt they had to do, even at the last minute.
I think Solo’s failure was unpredictable, unfixable, and are just the risks of the game. They’re Disney, they know that. Over-reacting to it is a bad idea. I would be heavily disappointed if Lucasfilm are thinking too short term. They could make things worse before they get better.
Having said that, the Fett and Kenobi movies refuse to be officially announced, they’ve been cautious about them from the start. If they are, as I assume, the continuation of the Qi’ra storyline, and Solo wasn’t actually meant to be about Han Solo at all, but the jumping off point for the new characters of Qi’ra and perhaps Enfys Nest, then couching it in familiarity surely seemed like a solid plan, that only failed through chance, and as new characters with new storylines seem to, apparently, be what everyone wants, they should be happy with what they’re doing. Unless it’s a Skywalker saga film, when they seem to want only predictability and formula. :rolleyes:
The Solo movie is not that bad but the Solo character was pretty well fleshed out in Star Wars 4,5,6,7.
There is NOT a lot more to really explore with the Solo character.
That being said, a lot of the Solo movie is trying to introduce new characters. However there becomes too many characters to follow.
I am a big Star fan but if you ask me to name the main Star Wars characters without using the internet I would go:
Darth Vader
Luke
Leia
Han Solo
Obiwan Kenobi
Rey
Darth Maul
Jabba the Hutt
R2D2 and C3PO
Palpatine
Yoda
After that, the characters become a lot harder to keep up with.
Thinking a little harder, I come up with
Chewbacca
Finn
Qui-Gon
Boba Fett
Jyn Erso
Count Dooku
General Hux
Captain Phasma
Padme
BB8
Greedo
General Grevious
Darth Maul
Porkins
Biggs
General Tarkin
It becomes a little too many characters to invest in and some of these characters are similar to each other, ie BB8 and R2D2, or General Hux, Tarkin or Count Dooku.
Compare Solo to the 2 movies that are likely to top the charts in 2018
Avengers 3 and Black Panther
There are even more characters in those movies than Star Wars but the characters in their are probably more interesting being Superheros with interesting powers
ie
Hulk
Spiderman
Captain America
Thor
Thanos
Loki
Iron Man
etc
The superheros are interesting in that they represent the ability to use their physicasl powers to prevent crime and help the world and yet they are conflicted as they also have flaws
ie Spiderman is the wisecraking teenager who is also insecure with girls and having his Uncle Ben killed (who he blames himself for)
Banner/Hulk is someone who has to control his temper or he goes on a smashing spree.
Thor is conflicted by his half brother, Loki and his sister, not to mention living up to the legacy of his father, Odin
Thanos is the all powerful Villian who can best even the strongest of the Avengers
Iron Man is the billionaire playboy who uses technology to be a superhero. without it, he is just an ordinary complete with flaws guy.
For me, it is more fun watching the Superheros deal with their problems and also battle other Superheros and there is still a quite a bit of uncovered territory with the Superhero movies.
Plus, its easy to add more superheros
ie Black Panther
I wasn’t planning on seeing it originally, and went in with low expectations. It wasn’t terrible, but it was the worst Star Wars movie since the prequels. It felt like they had a checklist of “What we know about Han Solo’s backstory”, and were just ticking off boxes. A lot of the references fell flat, and it would have been better to leave some things as mysteries. Some of the subtler references worked better. Ehrenreich was passable as Han, but some of the supporting characters like Glovers Lando were much better. It was ultimately a very forgettable movie.
Have you guys heard Lucasfilm is tabling other SW character movies after this failure?
Heard it was a rumor, already denied.