The Walker’s crews were not stormtroopers, though seriously a two-star leading an assault is probably a bad idea from the beginning. The Clone Wars did show non Clone/Stormtrooper infantry.
In an intergalactic warfare ground soldiers pretty much have to be Marines, don’t they?
The closest parallel I can think of is that of the British Army in the Carribean in the second half of the 18th century. Not Marines. But shipborne infantry.
Maybe the infantry guys who garrison occupied systems and put down local rebellions/problems, while the Shipbourne, Stormtroopers are the mobile reserves, deployed as needed.
The imperial army seems to be extremely specialized, of course we know that is because they gotta sell new trooper toys with each movie, but in world it seems like they have troopers for every planet. Maybe the stormtrooper armor was too inconvenient for a planet that is mostly mud. It wasn’t just the mud troopers that were a new addition, there was the guys on the train with the magnetic boots and the guy who chased Han at the start that looked like a combination of a Scout Trooper with Stormtrooper helmet.
If you look at the US military over 30 odd years, how many different uniforms would there be?
I don’t know the answer to that, but I would be surprised if it is not considerably higher than the different forms of storm trooper armor we have seen.
Add to that that it is not just one country, not one world, but lots of different planets, many of which may have their own semi-sovereign military leadership with their own sense of style.
I think them not being storm troopers is done for more practical reasons. 1 you really don’t want Han Solo as a stormtrooper and 2 if he was a stormtrooper a large portion of the movie you wouldn’t see his face.
I noticed the Imperial March was playing on the recruiting holo. So does that mean John Williams music is actually always playing in Imperial ships and installatioms?
All though I enjoyed the movie, I do agree that Han Solo was missing something, while Lando Calrissian was spot on.
The one thing that is problematic for this film that rouge one and the continuing series do not have is that the audience knows the ending. We know, having watched episode IV, that Han survives. So while the situations he ends up are amazing and spectacular, they are devoid of danger. If you don’t know the star wars story already, the tension in the scenes work, but otherwise, at least for me, some of the impact was lost. Rouge one got around that by using completely new characters, but that was not possible here and the death defying scenes just weren’t as interesting as the “is he going to get caught or not” ones.
The appearance of Darth Maul thing at the end really rubbed me wrong. The whole image of Darth Maul that I have from his previous movie appearance is as essentially a hired gun. Cool and everything, but nothing that suggests he is a criminal mastermind. Darth Vader in his appearances, although subservient to the emperor, is shown as having a level of independence and planning. So Darth Maul’s appearance at the end just felt like it was simply added to capitalize on the popularity of the character.
In the Clone Wars series, he gathered criminals and Death Watch to conquer the Mandalorians. It didn’t end well for him, which is when he disappeared from the show, only to reappear in Star Wars Rebels, where his story came to an end (See the video clip I linked above for how it ended).
I liked it a lot . I think it was better than episode 7 or 8. Seven was just a total copy of A new hope. I forgot until I read this thread that Darth Maul died in episode 1.
I feel like they set themselves up for an impossible task in recasting a role that is iconic and was originally played by an iconic actor. This isn’t Batman, or Spiderman, where you can cycle in a new actor every few years. All through watching this I just couldn’t get past that Alden Ehrenreich is not Harrison Ford. Not enough nose, too much jaw, missing the semi-laconic smirk and cowboy gruffness. It’s not his fault, he did his best.
Sorry, I know it’s my issue, but that’s how I sees it.
Sorry, but the whole time I’m reading your response, I’m thinking they need a line of Star Wars makeup products: Rouge One through Seven, Star Destroyer Eyeliner, Quira Lip Balm, you get the idea. Wookie Pal shampoo, conditioner and heavy duty detangler. Calrissian beard grooming kit.
Who goes into a movie thinking the hero is going to die? They may still be betrayed or injured or have their lives forever changed, their friends may die or their plans may fail. There doesn’t have to be the risk of the lead character’s death to make a movie worth watching.
I do think that Qi’ra made a calculated move at the end of the movie to sacrifice herself to save Han. It would be consistent with her character throughout the movie. After her initial sacrifice, she’s done things that she’s not proud of (to put it mildly) and there’s a ‘I’m no longer worthy of your love’ attitude there.
She also realizes that, as good as he is, Han can’t run from Crimson Dawn forever and chooses to let Han go while she stays to protect him.
I did like Han’s aside to Chewie - “Well, if you round down.” Very Han to have exaggerated something that was already a record.
Re: Just Maul (wouldn’t be going by the “Darth” title these days), in all fairness, he was a Sith apprentice, and not just some “hired gun”. At least not any more than Anakin and Obi Wan are mere hired guns just because they were on a mission for the Jedi Council. And that was 20 Star Wars years ago (according to the official timeline), so Maul would have had some time to work on his career .
It’s just now I envision every scene on a Star Destroyer going something like this:
Darth Vader: Admiral Piett, prepare the fleet for hyperspace.
Admiral Piett: As you wish, my Lord. Lieutenant, cue the music…
Lieutenant Bob: Right away sir!
*BA DA-DA-DA-DUM…
My WAG is that Stormtroopers fall under the Imperial Navy as a sort of combination Marines / space-mobile infantry / Waffen-SS. Prior to Solo, most of the Imperial activity we have been witness to is either aboard Star Destroyers, space stations or related facilitates (the shield generator or Endor, the base on Scarif).
Solo and his battalion of “ass-troopers” might be Imperial Army. Probably considered less elite than the Navy who serve mostly as cannon fodder or as permanent garrisons on various Imperial backwaters.