I would just like to add a hearty hearty fuck you to Cisco.
See, I just came back from TTT and figured, NOW I can open the thread! And I’ll be picking up the books on my vacation this week. Ooh, how exciting it is that I have managed to really not know the end yet? My reading this week will be so fun!
You dick.
Here’s a spoiler:In The Crying Game, the girl has a dick.
Actually, she isn’t a girl!
Oooops.
That movie came out 5 years ago. Anyone that wants to see it has had plenty of chances.
The Two Towers only came out a few days ago in the US and this is an international board. I don’t get to see it until it opens here – on Dec 26.
The Two Towers is a book that’s been out for 50 years. The only spoilers that the movie has then, for people who have read the book, are the changes that Peter Jackson made.
Which Cisco listed point by point earlier.
In a thread where the OP had requested no spoilers.
That’s being an asshole.
Actually The Crying Game came out 10 years ago but that wont stop some whiners from crying “spoiler!” Hell, Citizen Kane is older than the LotR but there’s still people that will whine when you tell them that Rosebud was his sled. Some people just need something to bitch about.
That was my entire point!
You spoiled a movie that for a lot of us isn’t even in the theatre’s yet!!!
Perhaps you should make certain you hold that phrase up to a mirror, Sparky.
Kaylasdad99: said
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Indeed. This is revisited in the beginning of TTT (the movie).[/spoiler]
davidw said:
“What, is that a required prerequiste to seeing the movie?”
No, but if you’re going to comment on a particular aspect of the movie that you feel is unfaithful to the book, you might want to make sure you accurately remember the book.
Why do you have to assume that everyone has the same cinematic and literary experiences you do? There’s a first time for everything for everbody, and just because those “firsts” aren’t on your timetable doesn’t mean you’re right to go spoiling things without warning. When did you read the books? When you were 12? If you were 11, and a dick like you had spoiled the ending, how would you feel? If you were 18 when you read the books, how would you feel if you’d read a post like yours when you were 17? Whatever age you were, would you have thanked a person who spoiled it for you immediately before you read them? How can you justify what you did, then blame people for “bitching” about it?
I’d never read the books because I was always a reader of non-fiction and biographies. The only “fantasy” book I’d read growing up was “The Once and Future King.” I went into the movie The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring without knowing who (or what) any of the characters were, or even what the story was. I was in the theater strictly because I was a fan of Peter Jackson’s other movies. I LOVED the movie! From the opening Elvish whispers, I was intrigued. When the music kicked in (that beautiful violin) I was enraptured. By the end of the prologue, I was enthralled. It didn’t let up for me. Through the whole (way too short) movie, I was scared to blink, for fear of missing a thing. When it was over, I felt high. High on cinema, high on Peter Jackson’s work, most of all, high on Tolkien’s story. When I got home that night I took down my husband’s copy of The Hobbit and started to read. A couple of months later I had finished The Return of the King. My timetable was radically different from yours, and yet you think I would have had no business being angry if I’d read a post like yours before I finished ROTK? Why?
New Tolkien fans are being born every day. Why is it important to spoil things for them, just because they haven’t become fans before now?
Anyway, in keeping with this thread, I’m so angry at Ebert and his review (both his print and his TV show). It wouldn’t be so bad if he just didn’t like the movie, but with both films he’s downgraded his opinion simply because he’s misrembering the books! He remembers the whimsical parts of The Hobbit, and thinks that any focus on men and action/violence is taking away from the “spirit” of Tolkien. On his TV show review, he actually called The Lord of the Rings a “gentle fable!”
One the one hand, he admits to being murky on the details of LOTR (“The details of the story–who is who, and why, and what their histories and attributes are–still remains somewhat murky to me.”) and then turns around and says something ridiculous like “It is not faithful to the spirit of Tolkien and misplaces much of the charm and whimsy of the books…” and “The last third of the movie is dominated by an epic battle scene that would no doubt startle the gentle medievalist J.R.R. Tolkien.”
Uh, the same “gentle medievalist” who actually WROTE the Battle of Helm’s Deep and the Battle of Pelennor Fields and this bit, in Balin’s tomb?
“How many there were the Company could not count. The affray was sharp, but the orcs were dismayed by the fierceness of the defence. Legolas shot two through the throat. Gimli hewed the legs from under another that had sprung up on Balin’s tomb. Boromir and Aragorn slew many. When thirteen had fallen the rest fled shrieking, leaving the defenders unharmed, except for Sam who had a scratch along the scalp. A quick duck had saved him; and he had felled his orc: a sturdy thrust with his Barrow-blade. A fire was smouldering in his brown eyes that would have made Ted Sandyman step backwards, if he had seen it.”
That guy? :rolleyes: Does no one have the balls to go up to Ebert and tell him he’s full of shit? That maybe he should READ the books between now and Return of the King lest he make the same embarrassing mistake 3 times in a row? He’s clearly remembering The Hobbit, but even THAT had the Battle of Five Armies, which was pretty violent and where lots of people died, including the Dwarves Thorin Oakenshield, Kili and Fili.
Ebert’s TV review should be on this site within a couple of days. It was broadcast last night.
I saw TTT last week. Until then, I didn’t open any threads about it, because of folks like Cisco.
By the way, I read the trilogy six times before most of the people on this board were born.
Showing off your knowledge of Citizen Kane is a cheap assed way to feel superior to someone, and it will negatively affect anyone who ever sees the movie for the first time. It is a great movie, and the search for “Rosebud” is integral to the plot, and you, you cheesedick little jerk are more interested in being superior in your own mind than in sharing the enjoyment of a classic movie with a younger generation.
Yes, it’s a spoiler, and you are an asshole if you tell people about it, without first asking if they have seen the movie. This is not a thread about Citizen Kane, so you have been rude and selfish here, even if your TTT comments were not.
What self absorbed little world you inhabit.
Tris.
From the same review:
"Frodo and Sam are being followed by a near-naked, split-personality creature (once the hobbit Smeagol) called Gollum "
This woman either never saw the movie or wasn’t paying attention. sigh
Spoilers? Her whole review is a summary of the plot of the movie!
What can I say? I’m sorry. I was in a bad mood that day. I was mad at one person and I said something that possibly affected many others. Sorry. I won’t lie, in the back of my mind I still find it hilarious because it was such an asshole thing to do but I know it was wrong and I shouldn’t have done it. I won’t do it again. That’s all I can say though, I can’t magically make it dissapear.
But re: Citizen Kane - groan. It’s been “spoiled” many times in popular culture and it’s really not that big of a spoiler anyway. I don’t feel sorry for that one.
There are acceptable spoilers and unacceptable ones. Major plot points are unacceptable, at least in a thread where the groundrules have been established as “go easy on the spoilers”
You know what? I HAVE read the books. But it was a long time ago… and I don’t really remember much about them. I didn’t remember that thing you posted, and I’m a bit annoyed that I read it. I’ve seen both the movies, and figured that the thread should be a-ok for me… but you are just being a dick.
You could magically make it disappear by asking a moderator to put spoiler tags around it. See how easy that would be? Then at least it wouldn’t piss off the next people to read the thread.
Jesus, I was a dick like 5 days and 27 posts ago and I’ve apologized twice already, how did this topic come back all of the sudden 
But you still haven’t asked the mods to put spoiler tags in, have you? (and I didn’t bring back the thread, it was at the top of the page when I got here)