Some people just should not schedule hour and a half massages...

… and you are one of those people.

Look, I understand that a student clinic is a good place to get an inexpensive full body massage. And really, I like you. You’re a nice lady. I enjoy working on you, really, I do.

But see, here’s the thing. You told me before we started that you don’t want your chest and abdominal area worked on. I won’t go into the importance of having the pectoral muscles worked, especially for someone as round-shouldered as you are. Nor will I give you a dissertation on how good for the digestion having your tummy worked on is. You are uncomfortable having these areas worked on, and I respect that.

Also, you came in wearing panties with a waistband almost up to your floating ribs, which indicates to me that you don’t want your butt worked on. This is a common issue with women when Aunt Flo is visiting, but you are of an age that I’m guessing that wouldn’t be an issue. Again, I won’t belabor you with a lecture on how the glutes play a vital role in back support and someone with back pain should have them worked on. I respect your personal boundaries. A bit of compression through the sheet, and I’ll move on.

Oh, and those spider veins aren’t actually a contraindication for massage, but your thighs are almost completely covered with them. Spider veins are something that should not be worked on deeply, or for extended periods of time. A few minutes of firm but gentle effleurage is about all I would want to do on that area.

The thing is this. You booked an hour and a half massage. It isn’t that I don’t like doing hour and a half massages. I love them, really. Under normal circumstaces, I feel like an hour isn’t enough time to do the kind of work I want to do on a client. But between the amount of surface area of your body that you don’t want touched and the area that I’m limited in the type and amout of work I can do, booking an hour and a half is a bit excessive. I mean, really, the reason I spent fifteen minutes on your feet isn’t because I like feet. Not that I don’t like feet. I do like feet. Feet are our friends. Without them, activites such as standing and walking would be very difficult. They are also one of the most neglected areas of the body. Many therapists just don’t like to work on them, so they get a light fluff-and-buff at best. Me, I pride myself on giving good foot. But really, unless I’m doing a full-out reflexology treatment, two or three minutes per foot in the course of a full-body massage is about all I usually do. Anything beyond that, I’m just killing time. The same goes for the shaking and rocking. Usually about thirty seconds is all I do in the course of a massage, if I do it at all. I spent, um, a lot more time with those techniques as a time-killer.

I understand that you came with your husband, and he’s also getting an hour and a half. That is fine, there are other things you can do for thirty minutes until he is finished. For instance, you could pick up dinner. Right here on campus in the next building is a cute little cafe owned by a nice Armenian family. The food is very good, and also very inexpensive. They have a lovely Middle Eastern combination plate- humus, babaganoush, tabouleh, and pita bread for $3.75. You could get carry out. Then you wouldn’t have to cook when you get home, and I’m sure your husband would enjoy a fresh, tasty, cheap meal.

For someone like you, an hour and a half is a waste of my time and your money. An hour would be plenty of time for me to give you a thorough massage. So either get over your hangups and let me work on all of you, or only book an hour.

Oh, and one last thing. That glass of water I brought you after the massage? You were supposed to drink it. See, massage stirs up metabolic wastes that can become trapped in body tissues, and it is important to drink water to flush them out of your system. If you don’t drink your water, you can end up feeling very crummy the day after a massage. So, drink your water, dammit.

That is all.

Have a nice day.

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I see. And where can I find this student massage clinic? A 90 minute inexpensive full body massage sounds like a good deal, even if I don’t have rib-high granny panties.

Perhaps the next time this happens, at the one-hour mark you could announce “now this is the part of the massage where we play cards. Do you know gin rummy?” If she objects, explain that it helps eliminate wastes that have built up in the brain. Then make her drink an extra glass of water for her insolence.

I’m in line behind Skammer (and what an appropriate name for someone trying to get a cheap massage).

Look in the phone book under “massage”. Any vo-tech schools with massage therapy programs would be listed there. Better yet, find out if your local community college has a massage program. There are a few excellent vo-tech schools out there, but the majority of them are, shall we say, slipshod in their instruction. A community college student would be more likely to give a good massage.

And drink your water, dammit.

(Actually, you should drink water before you come in for your massage as well as after. Dehydration and massage make for a bad combination.)

Thea,

Perhaps she just likes the physical sensation involved in whatever you do to her during that time. I wasn’t there, of course, and you certainly know her better than I do, but it could be that you’re just looking at it from a different perspective than she is. With you, it’s all business, and for her it might just be a pleasurable way to spend the time.

I’m somewhat renowned myself as an amature massage giver. :slight_smile: I don’t really enjoy doing it; at my level (amatuer, that is) I find it boring. But certain people I know are willing to pay me (bribe me, actually) to do it to them, not because of the physiological good I can do them, but because they enjoy the sensation they experience.

Oops! Please ignore the misplaced “e” on my first spelling of “amature.”

Thea Logic: what’s your opinion on Thai massage. I lived in Thailand for a while and since it was dirt cheap, $5-10 for 2 hours including tip, I got them as often as I could. Sometimes the masseuse wouldn’t know what she was doing, but overall quality was okay. I just suspect there are some things they do that maybe shouldn’t be done to a living organism. But it hurt so good!

Also, are you a male or female? I’m wondering do some men shy away from male masseurs (is that the right ending) and do some women also prefer female massage therapists? I’m just envisioning a George Costanza kind of moment on the massage table with a male attendant.

George: It moved!
Jerry: It moved?
George: It moved! Does that mean I’m gay?

Dammit!!! Did it again :slight_smile: . My fingers just won’t behave on this keyboard all of a sudden. It’s “amatuer”!!!

. . . amateur . . .

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Really don’t know a lot about Thai massage, except that many therapists use learning it as an excuse to take month-long vacations to Thailand. A couple of hours a day studying, then you hit the beach…

I’m female, and you’re right on about why men shy away from male therapists. It’s an American homophobic thing, really. In Europe, where people are not so hung up about their bodies, and where they understand that there is such a thing as nonsexual touching, most folks really don’t care what sex their therapist is.

I’ve had guys build little tents with the sheet on my table. It’s no big, really. A well-trained therapist (and an educated client) knows that this is just one of the body’s physiological responses to touch. It’s a little weird the first couple of times you see it, but after that, well, it’s a thing, it happens, and you get over it. I usually put a towel over a male client’s vital parts before I start work on the front of the body. The extra weight over the manly parts decreases the likelihood of an erection happening, plus that extra layer of covering makes it less visible if it does happen, so the client does not become embarassed.

You make that sound like it’s a bad thing. :slight_smile:

The place to study Thai massage is called Wat Po, which is a temple near the Grand Palace. No beaches anywhere near by. I’m sure that there are some places run for visiting foreigners that are near the main touristy beach areas. May even be good schools. But Wat Po is where Thais who are serious about learning the art of Thai massage go. FWIW I’ve heard that it’s not air conditioned, so if you ever want to go there I’d recommend late November through December. The massage is pretty intense and includes a lot of twisting and bending. The masseuse seems to use elbows and knees a lot (not unlike Muay Thai which is Thai boxing). They also have a lot of reflexology style stuff going on there, but it seems to be mainly for tourists.

Weeeeellll,

I get a LOT of massages and I pretty well always book 1.5 hours but no one has ever massaged my abdomen or chest.

This is because my back is such a total and pityful disgrace that it takes at least 50 minutes to get it even somewhat relaxed.

Another 10 or so on the glutes and that leaves about half an hour for legs, arms, head, neck, hands and feet - any chance she had an area she thought would take longer?

Or, perhaps she’s never had a massage before and thought she would go for the full-meal-deal, not realizing quite what that entailed?

Oh - and I always drink my water. :slight_smile:

alice, this woman is a regular client. I actually started her in a face up position because she has really serious back problems and I thought it would be good for her to have the table warmer warm her muscles up before I went to work on them. Also, with an hour and a half massage, I generally do about a half hour on the back, maybe a little more if there are serious issues. But then, I’m a student, not an experienced therapist, so I haven’t yet learned the full arsenal of techniques for working the kinks out of seriously messed up back. Forty minutes would be about the max I could spend and actually be doing useful work. Once I’ve gotten a bit farther into the deep tissue classes, I could probably spend more actual therapeutic time on a given area, working out trigger points, etc. When it comes to general muscle relaxation, I have found that if a tight muscle hasn’t softened up after I’ve worked on it for a given period of time, it probably isn’t going to, and I don’t want to cause further probelems by overworking the area.