Is there any way I can refuse to accept all the society-related stuff?
How can the government decide they have authority over me?
Since I was born where I live, I never chose to live under their regime. Why can they use my body as their property?
Why can’t I go wherever I want?
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
But nobody cares about this, apparently.
Why can countries claim land, but humans not?
Where I live you can’t even dig in your own garden, you only own the top bit of land. Even the top bit isn’t actually yours, the state can take it from you at any point in time (and they don’t even have to pay you for it).
There’s barely any unclaimed land in the world where I can just go and live freely, it’s all claimed by an ‘authority’ or deemed unclaimable.
I have some more questions, but they might seem illogical to some.
From the level of your writing ability, I assume that you’re at least a high school graduate and probably a college graduate. Why did you wait until after you had conned society into educating you (as well as feeding you and clothing you) before you announced that you wanted to reject everything that society would give you or take from you? Do you mind society wiping your brain of everything it’s taught you before dumping you naked into an ocean just outside the limits of what your country claims as its borders? Do you mind it wiping your immune system at the same time so you’re no long immune to the childhood diseases you were vaccinated for?
Birth givers and the authorities are allowed to force an opinion onto you until you are an adult, and they make your decisions. Also, again, what choice did I have, I was born into society, it’s not like I can go anywhere else, right?
No, but it’s not like a search on “sovereign citizen” (which term I’m pretty certain the OP already knows) wouldn’t answer those questions just as well without having to go through another thread about this absurd fantasy.
*No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man’s death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. *
A lot of property is privately owned by someone else. You can’t go into my apartment without an invitation.
A lot of property is publicly owned, but privately administrated and secured. You can’t go into the office of the police chief, or the 82nd Airborne’s aircraft hangars, or the IRS computer room, etc.
A lot of places are locked for safety: you can’t (legally) climb over the fence to the local electric power distributing station. You can’t walk on the railroad tracks. You can’t walk across the airport runway.
Other than these, where are you excluded from going?
Round here there’s only private property, so you can walk on the pavement, and a few public areas that are filled with tourists during the day. I think they mean that wherever they go, they are always subjected to some kind of authority.
How can the government decide they have authority over me?
Because all human civilization is founded on the concept of the social contract, and modern governments in particular derive their authority from the consent of the governed; individuals disavow their right to practice certain liberties to the collective for the sake of the community.
When your parents chose to give birth to you in the country where you now reside, they in effect agreed on your behalf (exercising their power of attorney over you, a minor child) that you would adhere to the laws of the land and be fully possessed of the rights and privileges such status entails. As an adult, if you don’t want to “live under their regime”, you’re free to leave and find a regime that’s more suited to you. Or you could try and start your own country and see how that works out for you.
Why can’t I go wherever I want?
Who says you can’t? Unless you’re trespassing on someone else’s land or on government land that’s closed to the public, most countries allow people to go where they please.
Why can countries claim land, but humans not?
Real property is a legal invention, not something that objectively exists. A state can claim land because it possesses the ability to back up that claim with military force. As an individual, when you purchase land, what you’re buying is a tenancy in fee simple - a promise from the state that they will use that same force to protect your exclusive right to inhabit that land and enjoy the fruits thereof. Much like any contract, it entails obligations such as taxation and respect of police authority - and if the state concludes it is in the best interests of the public that your tenancy be rescinded, they may do so.
But seriously, if he wants to thoroughly divorce himself from all social obligations/connections/influences, he should get a boat and go find an island somewhere. And once there, take a crate of roofies so he experiences total amnesia. Then he can live as nature intended, or something.
And even when you die, your loved ones (if any) can’t just dispose of your body any place they please. They can’t have a barbecue of your body parts or bury you in Times Square.
Spoons:
I’m just wondering how it is that modern society is so full of bullshit. I know there’s a few places where you can live in communes, where the only authority is your sanity, but those are usually filled with (wannabe) anarchists and the like.
Also, on the topics you linked people seemed very ignorant. I suppose when you discuss things like this people think you are a threat to their way of living. I don’t care how everyone wants to live, if you want to have two children and a white picket fence, that’s great. But it should be possible to be a nomad if you wish, too.
There are quite some nomads in Asia still, but the westernization is threatening their lifestyle. What makes the consumerist society we live in so much better than their world? At least they can take care of themselves if the government makes a mistake (not a rare thing). They don’t claim ground, or leave trash wherever they please.