I don’t think I understand your question. I wrote the following for this thread; perhaps it will answer your question.
Yes, and I hate those so-and-so’s now more than ever.
If it isn’t too much of a hijack, I’d like to thank Eve and KellyM for their willingness to discuss this subject, over and over again, correcting misunderstandings and misconceptions gently and courteously, dispelling ignorance and rolling their lovely eyes at stupidity.
If I’ve ever met a transsexual, I don’t know about it. The vast majority of what I know about life as a transsexual, I’ve learned from the two of you, and reading your posts has made me a lot more understanding and tolerant than I might have otherwise been.
If you’re interested in this topic, I recommend the book “Crossing” by Deirdre McCloskey. She underwent male-to-female sex reassignment surgery in the mid-1990s and wrote a book about her experiences.
I think her book is controversial because her opinions about male and female gender roles are rather traditional, but she does discuss the process and her thoughts about the “transition” in some detail. Keep in mind while reading it that Ms. McCloskey’s experiences and opinions reflect only her life, and not the lives of all transsexuals, and it should still be fairly informative.
Thanks, FisherQueen–that is really the only reason being outted here didn’t bother me. As long as I can show people we’re not like the sideshow freaks you see on TV . . .
snort Remembering the incident and the ones who said it, I wouldn’t worry about it, Eve. Consider the source?
lllrogue: (sorry if I got your handle wrong)
I don’t think anyone has mentioned the All About Eve thread which I recommend you search for. It will answer a lot of your questions. It’s also humorous and will give you an idea of how virtually all of us feel about Eve. We unabashedly love her. (Even if my love is apparently to go forever unrequited). How she can do this to me is beyond my ken. If only I were the only one to know of her TSitude I could blackmail her into doing hideous perversions…but I digress.
The thread is All About Eve,just like the movie. At the time,it made many of us tighten our seat belts.
Ah, but you couldn’t search for Eve, because it’s under four letters-the minimum for a search.
And yes, we all love Eve. She’s a class act.
[blushes prettily]
Yes, Eve, you are a class act.
And we can’t forget KellyM either!
She’s a lady
wo wo wo
she’s a lady
I can see how it would be difficult to tell or not tell someone.
I once worked (for a short time) with a woman (we were dancers) who was born mae but had had the surgery.
I think you shouldnot tell, at least you can date for a while.
DoesNo one understand?!
“I used to be a guy”
:oh, no biggie"
So, am I the only one here who DIDN’T know this about Eve?
I didn’t either, Mr. Blue
Another question… Since you had your surgery so long ago, Eve, do you often have problems with your, ah, plumbing?
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Posted by Broomstick
I’ve always wondered how transsexuals handle the dating and mating aspect of life. I assume that they run the gamut from celibate folks all the way through the spectrum to promiscuous, so I’m not going to assume that one speaks for all. But I would be interested in individual experiences and coping strategies. How does one tip-toe throught the minefield of initimate human relations? It can be pretty unnerving even for those of us who feel our genders and bodies match from birth and have conventional sexual orientation.[\quote]
Well, from the FTM side of the fence (yes we do exist)
It depends on whether you’re straight, gay or pansexual.
Most straight guys i know just make sure their girlfriend knows about it from the outset, knows what surgery they’ve had if any, knows what words to use to describe body parts, etc. Strap-ons are excellent, although obviously not a patch on the real thing.
Some gay guys I know don’t say anything about it for one-night stands, because of the seeming fascination for biological penis that bio gay guys have. Others have no problems at all.
None of my partners have had issues, although there usually has to be a discussion of boundaries, what’s good, what’s not good… this actually works well for everyone involved because you have a better idea of what you’re both going to enjoy before you get into it. Also, the issue of size is never a problem - if your partner wants a bigger/smaller one, changing over isn’t a hassle.
All that said, I don’t go taking my shirt off for just anyone.
YMMV.
Guin:
We meet again,and once again you correct me. I’m beginning to like it. Next time you can give me an amber shower while grinding your high heels into my groin and chanting “Who’s your mama,punk”?
Maybe you and Eve could both do it at the same time.
This is an easy thread to get lost in.
Okay, how could the All ABOUT EVE thread be found then. I have it saved in a folder. Oh wait a minute, you could find a post by Eve and just hit search,couldn’t you? Or am I missing something there,too?
If it’s not too personal, I’d like to know how you broke it to your families, what their reaction was, and what the relationship is like now that some time has passed.
Kalhoun: I’ve not been close to either of my parents for many years, for reasons not directly related to my transsexuality. I did finally tell my father at the beginning of this year; he has not spoken to me since and I am respecting his silence. I have not told my mother or any of my siblings (none of whom I am particularly close with), and have no contact with any of them. This occasionally pains me, but I do not currently have the emotional strength to deal with the potential negative results of attempting a contact with any of them.
“if your partner wants a bigger/smaller one, changing over isn’t a hassle.”
Now they tell us.
Just for the record, I’ve met Eve and she is, in fact, quite adorable and thoroughly female–she could pass as Bea Lillie’s more attractive, younger sister. Those two were lying in order to indulge their penchant for cruelty.
Well, I hope “younger sister,” Gobear, Bea Lillie was born in 1893!
The only family members who had major problems were the ones who didn’t much like me to begin with. My favorite comment was my grandfather’s: “That’s what happens when you send them to college!”
Oh, that’s what happens . . .