Someone Please help MOPAR

Ooo, thanks for the info. Does the “i” stand for “intelligent” like in Toyota’s VVT-i ? I think VTEC is “Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronically Controlled”. I’d hate to be caught out in a conversation by not knowing what the i is. :slight_smile:

Actually, you’re wrong again. They NEVER were common, still aren’t today. That’s the reason for the $400,000 musclecar-a Hemi Cuda(Barracuda for the non-gearheads). More “common” engines are the 318 smallblock and the 383 big block, less common, a 360 smallblock or 440 big block, most rare-the Hemi.

If you’ve ever shopped around for hemi engines or hemi engine parts, you’ll know this is no bullshit. Now with the renewed interest in the “hemi”, prices are probably even more insane than before, but I haven’t shopped around for a good long year or so.

Sam, who has a Roadrunner with a BB383 and a Charger with a BB400 at home

P.S.- Necros, you’re right about Beemer’s VVT being called “VANOS”. We always just called it VVT(long before the import brand name VVT), because that’s basically what it is.

Yes, they have - you even gave an example of it - look:

See?

Yes, they are. Really. Sorry.

Mangetout, cite? Or even a locale?
GaWd. Just because the cars with the engines are rare doesn’t make the engine rare. I can find a Charger Daytona with a 440 that can cost that much or more. Same for a Roadrunner. Parts are rare for all old engines that aren’t GM smallblocks. Ask anybody who races old Fords. Or old AMCs. They were common in racing, maybe not the public. Still doesn’t mean that it is rare. I’m not saying they aren’t decent engines, but why did they stop using them for nearly 30 years. CAFE standards? OPEC? When all other manufacturers brought back their V8s in the 90s? Granted, Chrysler isn’t the most well run company, or wasn’t, but someone there must have thought it was good.

FWIM on my reveiver it has inputs for ‘CD’, and ‘DVD’ but there is no way I could get a disk into them, and they appear to be inputs for cabled from the CD and DVD player. Also the buttons on the remote and the receiver itself say CD and DVD also, but all they do is activate the player.

It’s funny how some will complain when people get upset when some say ATM machine, while others get upset when people say DVD (-player).

It’s no wonder our world is so F’d-up.

Locale: UK

Usage such as ‘My stereo has CD, cassette and tuner; I’m thinking about getting DVD’ is very common here (and certainly nobody would misinterpret it as references to the actual media); but I expect this isn’t just limited to my locality.

Cite? Sure:

Plus many of these Google results

:sigh:

qcomdrj, Though the hemi was popular in racing, and many were produced, it was still pretty goddamned rare. It’s really a question of perspective-though popular in racing in the 70’s, how many race teams had them? a few thousand? so we’re really talking about a statistically small group of people. Please go here: http://www.terraworld.net/smoker/cars/hemi.html The official number of cars that were produced with Hemis is somewhere between 11,000 and probably 15,000 or so. Most of those cars were wrecked, smashed, crashed, abused, rusted out or turned into planter boxes or some shit. The ones that are still on all 4 wheels are worth their weight in gold to a collector.

So double the number of “official” cars produced with Hemis to about 30,000(for engines used in racing and whatnot), and there’s still less than 50,000 produced up until the 70’s. Most of those engines are probably worn to shit, grenaded, or lost by now. What you have left is a handfull of original blocks in existence.

Compare that to the smallblock chevy-probably 20 or 30 million produced globally. Most Chevy vehicles until the 80s had 350s in them. It’s an extremely common engine.

The Hemi was discontinued for many reasons. Mostly, because of fuel inefficiency. The Hemi was discontinued in 1971. Starting in 1971, the 440 began to go away as well as the 383. THey’re still relatively common in 71 models though. By 1972, most Chargers, Runners, Etc began coming with the 318, but the option for the 440 still existed I believe. By 74, there were almost no big blocks being produced for street cars, and indeed the Roadrunner was smaller, more compact, built on the Dodge ‘K’ platform and had mostly straight sixes in them. THe Hemi has been in reproduction for several years now by MOPAR Performance, making the hemi a little less rare, but production problems and high cost to purchase, machine and build a hemi engine is keeping that number low still.

And no, you won’t find a Daytona or Superbird with a 440 for that kind of money. A pristine one(which doesn’t exist) would probably go for 100K. And in the MOPAR world, there are only a few collectors who own just about every wingcar that is still in existence. The last one that I know that was sold was a Daytona from Australia that sold for probably less than 50K.
Sam

[prostrating myself to the MOPAR gods]

:eek:

That should of course read “…slant sixes…”
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One last point, then I’ll slink off…

qcomdrj, DC/MOPAR has never discontinued the production of their V8. It has been used nonstop in their Dakota line and I believe their larger trucks also has a larger V8 available.

Sam