Is it just me, (apologies if this has been discussed, I couldn’t find it), or does Dodge advertising think everyone is a retard.
Point A) “This new Durango has a dvd!” said with glee. I could make an 84 Citation have a Dvd, they cost $4.88 at Wal-Mart. DVD player you mean? Little difference. It’s like calling it a VHS instead of a VCR.
Point B) “And it’s got a Hemi” Yes. It has DaimlerChrysler’s trademarked name for the cylinder head shape almost every engine uses. That would be like Chevy patenting “smallblock”.
Point C) Really, does anyone haul a surfboard, an amp, and a guitar at the same time as their ladder and 2x4’s? I don’t care if the Magnum can haul them, nobody says “Dude, after surfing, lets go by Home Depot and then jam. Let’s race an old Lotus while we are at it”
I could find more, but I leave it to the rest of you to do so.
That’s not correct. If an engine has any more than two valves per cylinder it is virtually impossible for it to be a Hemisperical head engine due to the weird geometry it would take to make that work.
Airman Doors,
Sorry for saying most. However, a vast majority of GM V8 engines (not the northstar models) are 2 valves/cylinder. I guess I was implying most V8’s. In the interest of fuel economy, etc, most engines are 4 or even 5 (Ferrari) valvles per cylinder. The Hemi was widely copied when Dodge first came out with the engine. And it still is synonymous with “small-block” or back then even “unleaded gas only”.
Yes, lots of car manufacturers have copied the hemi chamber design, most notably Ford who ran an engine in competition almost identical to the Hemi for many years.
Huh? Dodge made small blocks, of which Hemi is not one, but Chevy would be most synonymous with “small-block”, over all other american auto manufacturers who made a smallblock. Not sure what you were getting at…
Waitaminnit…are you saying that DaimlerChrysler cynically copyrighted the term “hemi” and is now misapplying it to wedge engines, i.e., “the cylinder head shape almost every engine uses”? Or are you saying that at some time when I wasn’t looking the automotive industry dropped the wedge-shaped combustion chamber and adopted the hemispherical variety?
If the former, that would be way worse than Chevrolet copyrighting “smallblock”. That would be like Mazda copyrighting “Wänkel rotary” and then slapping a “Wänkel rotary” advertising sticker on their piston-engine automobiles.
If the latter, …when did that happen? If I hoist the hoods of a dozen randomly-chosen recent-vintage cars, will I see spark plug wires going down through the valve covers?
I did have an old Toyota Corolla ('73ish) whose 1600 cc engine was indeed a hemi, but I thought they were still kind of rare and unconventional.
The hemi is not synonymous as small block. Stamping “hemi” on the side of the car is synonymous with stamping “small block” on the side of a chevy. Yes, you’ve now informed me that that car has an engine. I could infer that from the exhaust pipes. Diesels rattle more, so I assume it’s gas. Hemi’s are more rare now, because there are much more efficient engines, but it is useful for torque. That’s why lots of trucks use them. I really should try to be more clear.
The crux is that naming engines now is stupid, what with there being 1/100th of the gearhead there once were. And the ones that are, work on Honda engines anyway. GM says Vortec, Ford, Triton, Toyota, i-Force. Dodge implies that their Hemi means something special, similar to VVT Hondas. It doesn’t, at least not anymore. That is all.
Yes, you really should be more clear, and what AHunter3 said. Hemi means the engine has a hemispherical head design, and most cars have wedge heads. Hemi “technology” isn’t used on many cars.
So I guess the real question is: Does the new Dodge Durango (and pickups) have an engine with hemispherical heads?
BTW, Honda engines (with the feature) aren’t just VVT: They’re VTEC, which varies both the lift and the durantion electonically. And the “real VTEC” acts on, I believe, both intake and exhaust cams, as opposed to some Hondas that only have intake VTEC.
Old name for Chrysler MOtor PARts division. Like GM has Mr. Goodwrench, and Ford has Motorcraft. Probably not the most descriptive thread title, as I’m sure only a small percentage of Dopers are old gearheads and their families.
It’s nice to know a Hemi owner will have something to sell after the rest of the car rots away. Chrysler throws out these cars (Viper, Prowler, PT Cruiser, Crossfire, etc) to take your minds off the regular crap they build (like the 10,000 Le Baron variants).
You missed the point. No they aren’t unique. Or at least they weren’t. They might be more rare now, but they were quite common in the 60s and 70s. As an aside, there is an 87 Dodge Shadow convertible here with a “Yeah, its got a Hemi” bumper sticker. I’ve been driving around with my camera lately so I can get a picture of it, because it is fan-fucking-tastic, complete with extremely obese, unhygienic driver.
I call mine an MP3 player. Lots of people say chomping at the bit instead of champing at the bit. Doesn’t make it right. DVD players haven’t been called simply DVDs yet. CD players aren’t called CD’s, and they’ve been around longer. Radio waves have been around since the big bang, and radio transmission for quite awhile, may make for the familiarity. But no, I don’t call it a Radio Wave Receiving Appliance. Maybe it’s her voice that sets me off. Plus she’s married to a big idiot in the commercial.