dammit here’s a link. What a pain in the ass.
anybody have a search engine recomendation?
You could try www.teoma.com or www.dogpile.com, although I’m not sure how good either one is at searching Chinese-language sites.
They snatched your Google because you spent too much time Googling for snatch. 
I don’t care about the Chinese language sites, I only want english language. But thanks, I’ll check those out. Damn those octogenarian leaders.
What was their reasoning? Do they realise it’s one of many search engines, not a repository? Or are they scared of the cache function? Erasing the past being something this prevents…
Dogpile is a metasearch engine - it searches over several search engines. (I should have mentioned that.)
[I was wondering how long it would be before someone made that joke **kferr**!]
They have issued no official statement on this as of yet, they merely did it.
I would think it wouldn’t last forever. Hopefully google can get themselves back in good favor quick for you.
Eh?
Looking at the article on Slashdot, I note that one poster said :
So have you tried http://216.239.39.101/ ?
Dogpile is a metasearch engine - it searches over several search engines. (I should have mentioned that.)
[I was wondering how long it would be before someone made that joke **kferr**!]
I read on another board that the Categories and Web Sites on Yahoo are Yahoo’s, but the Web Pages come straight from Google.
Another search engine suggestion - can you access the Open Directory Project? I don’t really get much in the way of results from ODP, but doing a search there also triggers a search on Google, Alltheweb, Yahoo, HotBot, AltaVista, Netscape, and Northern Light. If you get a ‘no results’ search, there will be a box in the center of the page with links to the different Google sections (including Groups, Images), and a row of links to the other sites across the bottom. If you get results, the row of links to all of the other SEs will still be across the bottom. You don’t have to click the link and then start a new search; when you click the link you will go to the first page of your search, which has already been done. I don’t know if you can get to Google that way, but you can find an awful lot of information through that many SEs.
Dogpile is good, but you only get the top ten results - through ODP you get the entire search. Yahoo has something similar at the bottom of their search pages, plus if you click the “More” link there, you will be taken to this page. There you will find a link-list of the top search engines, followed by an alphabetical list of what must be just about every SE on the internet. Plus, under ‘Categories’ at the top of the page there is a link to “All-in-one-SEs” that takes you to a list of meta-SEs (like Dogpile) here.
Another page with links to lots of different SEs: here
Also Search Engine Watch, where, under the category ‘Specialty SEs’, you will find a link to pages about the Invisible Web, which is absolutely wonderful.
Another really great place to check out is Martindale’s Reference Desk, from which you may never escape. Where else can you find the Global Tide and Current Predictor, Global Lightning Distribution, the Atmospheric Radiation Measurement, the Solar Wind Update, and the Auroral Activity Report? 
With Dogpile, you only get the top 10 results on the first page - you just click “more results from” to get the more of 'em.
Does http://www.alltheweb.com/ work for you?
Or Jeeves (don’t laugh, it’s better than nothing). http://www.ask.com/
Shall we send you other links, a sort of emergency link CARE package?
I saw the news blurb, too, and I went, “Huh?” too.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/09/02/china.google.reut/index.html
I mean, huh?
Anyway, I’m not an “old China hand”, but my guess would be that somebody High Up just wants to send a message to somebody else High Up. “See? Down with the Yankee capitalist running dogs, we have shut their vile Internet search engine off…” while in reality it’s business as usual, with everyone shrugging and finding ways around it.
It’s called “having your cake and eating it, too”. 
They can send an anti-Western message and still have the Internet.
I suggest you complain about this to your local representative, then jump out a first story police precinct window, dying tragically of a caved-in skull in a five foot fall.
Missed the point. Google is blocked because of its cache function – if you wanted to access some other banned webpage, you could just search for it on google and read the stored version from there. Yahoo! uses google for searches, but it doesn’t support reading cached webpages.
I alternate between Google and Hotbot www.hotbot.com
Well, I knew that, I just don’t usually get that good of a result from Dogpile. I suppose it depends on what you are searching for - I rarely get even the 10 minimum hits they offer. Clicking on ‘more results’ just repeats the ones already listed, and an invitation to do a new search!
China Guy, have you ever considered using an anonymous secure proxy? Or is that even an option?
Yuck, yuck. You do understand that we’re not talking about someone’s boss cracking down on employees who are surfing for porn when they should be working–we’re talking about the leadership of an entire country attempting to control the flow of information and stiffle the development of a free political system?
If that means “Google knuckles under and assists the Chinese leadership in politically repressing the Chinese people”, then I certainly hope not.