Hounted Pasta, that’s hilarious. It reminds me of someone who wanted to do a sales call with me. We e-mailed back and forth a few times trying to negotiate a time when she could call me. I said “Any time during the day is fine, except between 2 and 4pm.” She replied “OK, I’ll call you at 2.” (It turned out OK, I was pretty flexible, but sheesh.)
They’re not supposed to enter negative values in most fields on that particular form, but the validation function gets used in many fields on many forms. In some cases negatives are perfectly valid.
But what about negative ranges?
Ha, ha. Just beating a 3-week old gelatinous horse corpse. I’m with you now.
In real life, whenever I overhear two people arguing back and forth like this it’s usually pretty obvious that one person is frustrated because the concept is so simple. The other person is clarifying and re-clarifying because they refuse to accept that point is as simple as it is and that they must be missing something.
As it goes on, it just gets worse, because if the point was so simple, why has there been a 5 minute discussion about it already?
And as a bystander who can easily see what is going on, it is really difficult to step in and explain, because it’s hard to do without insulting the intelligence of one of the participants.
Yeah, sometimes the concept is not all that simple, but the explainer thinks it is. Sometimes the explainee really is that dense.
I remember having a discussion about something musical with Mr. Superdense when I was in music school. I was trying to explain something that was an accepted fact and not open to iterpretation. Like the key of E-flat has three flats or that common time has 4 beats per measure. He countered with “Well that’s not the way I see it.”
A couple of years ago a woman came into the restaurant I wait tables at. We had, at the time, a fried chicken salad on the menu. It was pretty big, so she wondered if she could get a smaller version of it, all the same stuff, but only as big as a side salad. I knew it would be tricky to do in the computer system, but I said yes.
So I rang in just a small salad for her, and in the system you can type in messages for the cooks, so I just wrote it “make it just like the fried chicken salad, but smaller.” I then had to figure out how to charge her for it…if she had gotten it without the chicken, I wouldn’t have done anything else, but she still wanted chicken, but only half as much…
Well, the computer system has a “add extra 6 oz chicken” button, but two problems:
She only wanted a half order of chicken
That button would only work if ordering a BIG salad and the person wanted more, not on the small salad.
The only “up-charges” I could do on a small salad was an “add bacon” button, which was $1, or a $2 charge to make it a “big salad.” Since the add chicken button was like $4.50, I figured the “big salad” button was the best to do, since it was close enough to half.
The problem came when I gave her the check…the receipt prints out the up-charges, so she saw that she had a small salad that was up-charged to a big salad. Now, when I dropped it off, I explained to her the situation:
Me: Here’s you bill…you’ll see that I added the big salad charge…I know you had a small salad, but that’s just what I used to charge you for the chicken.
Her…But I didn’t have a big salad, I had a small salad!
Me: I know, but I needed a way to charge you for the chicken on the salad. The regular small salad price doesn’t include chicken.
Her: So why did I get charged for a big one?
Me: That’s just the button I hit to charge an appropriate amount for the chicken…I’m not charging you $2 for a big salad, I’m charging you $2 for chicken.
Her: So if you’re not charging for for a big salad, why is the price there?
Me: …:smack: The salad you ordered isn’t a regular menu item, it’s normally only available as a big version. You got a small version, I know that, but you also got it with chicken, which the small salads don’t normally come with. The $2 is just to charge you for the chicken on the salad.
She still wouldn’t get it…it was back a forth a few more times, her just insisting she didn’t get a big salad, so why did she get charged for one, and me just trying to explain that I KNOW she had a small salad, but the regular small salad price doesn’t include chicken, and the computer has no way of adding a charge for chicken to a small salad, so I had to charge her for a big salad. She eventually paid, though I still don’t think she understood why…I hope her friend explained it to her after they left better than I was trying to.
NO, sorry, I billed you for the steak you didn’t have twice at $24.95, then negatively charged you for the steak, so you will still end up paying $24.95. However, if you also don’t eat the chicken that does not come with the small salad, and instead have the large salad with only a portion of the chicken, then we’ll have to charge you a double negative for that portion of the large salad (with or without chicken) that you chose not to have.
Just give me your visa card. I’ll work it out for you and add the tip.