Sometimes The Bad Guys Win (WARNING: NOT funny. Disturbing)

First of all, this ain’t a funny story.

No, seriously. Not funny. Kind of sick, actually. Certainly offensive. Especially to women, most likely.

But it’s not funny, nor is it intended to be. To anyone. If it is anything, it is an object lesson, and not a real pleasant one.

Still curious? Wanna keep reading? So be it.

You Have Been Warned.


I teach. I teach teenagers.

Yesterday, in class, in that last few moments before the bell rang, the kids were so restless, I saw no point in trying to get them to do anything or pay attention, so I told them to keep it down to a dull roar, turn in their work, and get ready to leave. Yeah, I know, you’re supposed to teach bell-to-bell, but them what tells you that aren’t the ones actually dealing with the kids, now, are they?

And in the soft chatter of voices that filled the classroom, I promply picked out two. Girls. Freshmen, maybe fourteen or fifteen.

“Girl, you CRAZY.”

“Yeah, right.”

“Girl, you CRAZY. HOW many guys gonna be there? And you goin’ ALONE? Girl, you in for a long night.”

“Yeah, right.”

“I’m serious, girl. You don’t want to do that. Too many guys there, not enough girls, and if they drinkin’, well, they gonna get the idea sooner or later.”

“They wouldn’t dare.”

“Yeah, that’s what YOU think.”

“Right. Twenty guys are just gonna drop everything and gangrape somebody they go to SCHOOL with? Yeah. Right. I know every one of their names. They won’t do a thing.”

THAT sentence hit me rather hard. I opened my mouth to say something, and the bell rang, and the kids erupted into the air, as one, and flooded out the door.

Besides, why bother? At fourteen, you’re immortal and largely invulnerable. You are far smarter, quicker, and more stylish than the aging, lumbering creatures that are your immediate ancestors and evolutionary forebears, and if they didn’t have all the laws and cops and own everything, you wouldn’t listen to them at all.

But I thought, anyway.

And when I got home, I began to write. It took a while, because this is a story I keep in a place where I don’t much go. Don’t much like to, really. But it’s not something I can just toss away and forget about, either. Best I can do is put it away in some dark closet off to the side of my conscious mind and not go digging around in there too often.

Except when I have to.


The seventies were burning out rapidly, not much left of them, and I was, I believe, fifteen at the time.

It was Saturday night. I hadn’t had any particular plans for that evening, except perhaps for checking out the new Saturday Night Live, but the show had been kind of lame since Ackroyd and Belushi left, that last season, and Sam had shown up unexpectedly at the house, and asked, “Wanna go to a party?”

An hour later, as it grew dark, I stood on the porch of someone else’s house, holding a beer, and wondered where the party was, and if it was coming anytime soon. True, the beer was cold, and free, but beer does not a party make. I knew the other guys at the party – my high school was small enough that everyone knew everyone – but none of them were guys I hung with, and aside from Sam, I had nothing in common with 'em. Jocks, mostly. Someone’s folks were out for the weekend, and the house was at Sonny’s disposal. And where were all the chicks? You can’t have a party without chicks!

This seemed to be the consensus with the other guys at the party, too. Most of them were older than I was, juniors and seniors, and they ignored me, for the most part, beyond a brief “hey, how’s it goin.”

Not my idea of a wild time, really. Sam knew people, though, and circulated relentlessly. Me, I stood on the porch and wondered how long Sam was going to want to hang around.

…so I was the first to see when El Blotto pulled up out front … with Shellie in the car with him.

I perked up. Shellie? Hm. Perhaps this party might manage to amount to something after all.

Most guys would not regard a party with twenty guys and one girl as being a real interesting affair. I would normally agree… unless the girl was Shellie, or someone like her.

Shellie was something special, you see. Freshman, a year younger than me. Couldn’t have been more than fourteen… but you wouldn’t know it to look at her. Long honey-colored hair, the face of an impudent goddess… and a remarkable set of hooters, much observed by young men and envied by young women.

No, seriously. Ask any ten guys from my old high school at random, mention the name “Shellie,” and they’ll say, “Oh, yeah, Torpedoes Away?” She had the knack some girls seem to have of defying gravity with 'em, and filling out a T-shirt or sweater very nicely.

She knew this, of course. She’d figured out how to hypnotize guys with her hooters around age twelve, and had been refining her technique ever since.

Shellie was the subject of no little debate and speculation among my peer group. Was she or wasn’t she? Did she or didn’t she? No one knew. There were, of course, those tyros who swore they’d been in her pants since day one, but no one of any credibility had ever claimed to have made it as far as first base. Two guys I knew had gone out with her, and not gotten anywhere, and not much cared for her attitude. Apparently, she measured affection in terms of dollars spent and gifts given, before she made up her mind about whether or not she liked you.

El Blotto draped his arm around her, and laughingly hustled her into the house. I raised an eyebrow, and followed. Perhaps this party might turn out to be interesting, after all. How long would it take her to drink enough beer to seriously entertain the idea of taking her top off and dancing on the table? Another girl had done this at a party the previous month, and my friends and I had very much regretted we hadn’t been there for that one. Perhaps I’d be privy to an even better show, with some patience…

Within the hour, sure enough, she had been convinced to dance on the dinner table. It hadn’t taken too long to get her good and schnockered; apparently, she didn’t have much taste for beer, but she did rather like homemade wine coolers. I found out later that there hadn’t been any wine in the house; what she was drinking was a mix of Kool-Ade, lemon soda, and some kind of clear booze – vodka, perhaps.

It did have the desired effect, though. She’d gone fairly quickly from wondering why she was the only chick at the party to giggling madly and agreeing to repeated demands to dance on the table. She wasn’t bad at it, either, even without a brass pole to cling to… but her top remained firmly in place. Lots of hip wiggling and jiggle action, but she seemed comfortable enough dressed.

“Take it off! Take it off!” chanted her drunken chorus.

“I don’t wanna,” giggled Sherrie. “It’s cold in here!”

“Take it OFF! Take it OFF!”

“YOU take it off!” she laughed.

…and at that, one of the football players roared a mighty football cry, and snatched Sherrie from the tabletop, and ran away into another part of the house, while she giggled hysterically from over his shoulder.

I was irritated. The floor show had been prematurely terminated. Man, if they’d left her alone, who KNOWS what she might have been ready to do? Glumly, I went and got myself another beer, and went out on the porch to drink it. The music was too loud, and I was never all that wild about Thin Lizzy, anyway.

The song was “Jailbreak,” by the way. Over and over and over again. Someone really liked “Jailbreak,” by Thin Lizzy.

So I stood on the porch and drank my beer and wondered where Sam was, and how long I was going to have to hang around before he finally felt like going home, and whether or not I was going to have to drive.

“Hey, dude,” said the Turtle. “You’re missin’ the show.”

I glanced around. Turtle was leaning out the front door. He didn’t have his shirt on.

“Nothin’ personal, guy,” I said, “but I didn’t come all the way out here to see YOU with no shirt on.”

“I’d worry about you if you did,” he grinned. “Seriously. You in, or not?”

“In on what?”

“Come check it out,” he leered. “She’s gonna do us. All of us.”

“Sure thing. And then she’s gonna sprout wings and fly home.”

“Hey, man, you were invited. If you don’t wanna, well, that’s your trip.”

“Seriously?” I said. “You’re seriously sayin’ she’s gonna pull a train of what, twenty guys?”

“That’s what she came here for.”

“Seriously?” I said. Somehow, this didn’t seem quite right. I mean, nobody had EVER gotten to first base with this chick, verifiably, and now allofasudden after five wine coolers, she’s ready to take on the whole football team, plus coaches, manager, and waterboy?

“Come see for yourself,” the Turtle said, and he vanished back into the dark, loud cavern of the living room.

This I had to see.

One of the back bedrooms had two doors leading into it. It was empty, aside from a mattress someone had yanked off the bed in the master bedroom, and flopped on the floor, but enough light leaked in from the hall that if you looked in either door, you could plainly see what was going on.

Sherrie was lying on the mattress. She appeared to be nude, but it was kind of hard to tell, what with El Blotto on top of her. El Blotto was dressed, but had his pants around his ankles.

At first, I thought Sherrie was unconscious, but at one point, she moved, although it seemed kind of feeble. It didn’t really look like two people having sex. It looked kind of like El Blotto was trying to restrain her, actually, although she didn’t look like she was putting up much of a fight. Somehow, she didn’t look anywhere near as lively as she had ten minutes earlier on the kitchen table.

I leaned closer. El Blotto was talking to her, but I couldn’t hear what he was saying. She replied in a kind of whimper, but I couldn’t hear what she was saying, either.

And then, three guys walked past me, into the room, and began to undo their pants. They lined up neatly, and waited for El Blotto to get out of the way.

A minute or so later, Sherrie happened to look up… and notice these guys… and I heard very clearly what she said, then. She shrieked like a banshee who’d just stepped on a live piranha.

At that point, El Blotto DID restrain her. His actions and body language changed, rather sharply.

So did hers. Rather than the relaxed, limp kind of posture she’d had a moment earlier, her eyes were now quite big and bugged, and she was furiously trying to bring her legs together and get some traction with her feet, a move which was made rather difficult by El Blotto’s presence between her legs.

El Blotto leaned down and began speaking in her ear. I couldn’t hear what was said, but her reactions told me, pretty plainly, what was happening here. She had assumed someone wanted to play grabass in the back room, and was drunk and dumb enough to allow this… but now the rest of the gang wanted to play, too.

…and they were GOING to play. Whether Sherrie liked it or not. The only choice she had was the Hard or Soft Option.

Cooperate, or suffer.

Her eyes got even bigger, as El Blotto spoke in his low voice. They darted back and forth, panicked, resting temporarily on every face she saw.

Mine included.

“Uh,” I said.

A couple of guys in the hall looked at me.

“Uh,” I said again. “Uh… hey, is this a good idea?” I said. I immediately wished I had said something different.

“You got a problem with it?” said a guy whose name I didn’t know.

“Uh… well… partyin’ in someone’s mom’s house is one thing, man, but this… man, this is going too far, don’t you think?”

The statement made perfect sense to me, and I was mildly surprised to see that the looks on the faces of the other guys in the hall did not seem to agree. In fact, a couple of them looked downright hostile.

“Bitch wants it,” someone said.

“Are you nuts?” I said. “Man, look at her. She’s scared shitless, in there. I bet nobody told HER what the deal was–”

In the room, Sherrie yelped. I don’t know if she heard me talking, or if someone did something in there, or what. I glanced in at her. She looked at me.

She looked at me.

“Man, this is no good,” I said. “Take a look at her–”

Suddenly, someone grabbed my by the collar, and swung me into the wall, away from the door. “You are NOT going to mess this UP, man!” It was dark in the hallway, and I couldn’t see who had spoken. Suddenly, I seemed to have five guys surrounding me… and the looks on their faces were not sympathetic.

I couldn’t believe this. “Are you guys SERIOUS?” I said. “Man, this is a friggin’ CRIME, guys! This is–”

“She’s not YOUR girlfriend!” someone snarled, accusingly. “What do YOU care?”

“Bitch wants it. Look at her. Bitch wants it.”

“You do NOT want to mess this up, man.”

I looked at the faces of the guys around me. Boys, really. The eldest of them might have been eighteen. I knew them all. I went to high school with all of them. And I was coming to a realization that I did not like, that in fact was beginning to frighten me.

These guys were going to friggin’ gang-rape a drunk fourteen-year-old girl.

For being drunk, and stupid, and having big boobs.

And, worse, they were prepared to stop me from interfering. Forcefully. Violently.

Guys I went to high school with. Guys who played football. Guys I had in some of my classes.

Who WERE these people?

“Guys,” I said, sounding weak and wussy, even to myself, “think about this, man. She does NOT want this. Man, you could–”

“I think you need to go now,” someone said, pushing into the crowd. He took my arm and dragged me into the living room.

I glanced around. Where the hell was Sam? I couldn’t see into the back bedroom any more, too many guys in the way. What was happening back there? Was SAM in there? What the hell–

The guy who had grabbed me shoved me roughly onto the front porch. In the porch light, I could see who it was. He played football. Won a couple of scholastic awards, too. Had his picture in the paper. A senior.

“Look, man,” he said, “this is going to happen, one way or another. Now if you want in, say so. If you don’t want in, you need to leave.”

I stood there and stared at him. I still couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Were these guys CRAZY? “Man, they put you in jail for this shit,” I said.

“Nobody’s going to jail,” he said. “She showed up, she got drunk, she took us all on. There’s sixteen guys who will say so, too. Our word against hers.”

I stood and stared at him.

He anticipated what I was thinking. “Man, you could have got your ass handed to you in there. I saved it once. I ain’t gonna save it again. You open your mouth, and it’s STILL sixteen against you and her. It’s gonna happen, one way or another. And the only difference you’ll make is whether sixteen guys kick your ass or not.”

We stood there and stared at each other for a minute.

What I wanted to say then, was, “Do you realize you’re inflicting an act of physical and psychological torture on a fourteen year old girl, dude? You realize, you’re scarring her for life? And that’s assuming you and the rest of the Jackass Squad don’t knock her up in the process, because if that happens, at least one of your drunk stupid asses is going downtown, man.”

What I managed to say was, “Man, what about HER?”

And “This ain’t RIGHT, man. You KNOW this ain’t right.”

He looked at me there, on the porch, as the june bugs battered themselves stupid on the bare porch lightbulb, and for a moment, I dared to hope he might actually have an attack of conscience… that maybe I’d made a difference.

“You’re drunk,” he said. “Go home, dude.”

And he closed the door. And locked it.

I stood there. After a few minutes, the porch light went off, and the music volume went WAY up.

I stood there. Nothing happened. Finally, I walked away. It occurred to me to find a rock or something and start bashing windshields. I actually went so far as to find a good sized rock before I realized that I was three miles out of town, and that if these guys realized what I’d done, they’d catch me halfway back there and beat me stupid. Hell, they were drunk, too. They might kill me.

And it still wouldn’t do Sherrie a bit of good.

So I dropped the rock and walked home.


Sherrie didn’t come to school for a few days after that. When she did start showing up, the word had circulated pretty well about her wild and wanton behavior at the party the previous weekend. Lots of knowing looks and looking-down-the-nose at her. More than a few lewd propositions and jokes. LOTS of very public party invitations.

I noticed she never wore her pink “Foxy Lady” tank top to school any more. In fact, she seemed to have radically changed her style of dress. For the rest of the time I knew Sherrie, you would never be able to tell she HAD breasts, from the way she dressed. Long trousers or slacks, never skirts. Heavy, baggy sweaters or sweatshirts. She took to wearing a jacket a lot of the time, even in the hot South Texas climate, out of season.

No charges were ever brought against anyone. No complaints were ever made. I wondered what I would do if I were brought to testify, but no one ever asked me to. Once, a guy bumped me in the hall hard enough that it felt like a body check, and muttered, “keep your damn mouth shut,” but that was all anyone ever said to me about it.

Sherrie had smiled a lot, back in the day. After the party, I never saw her smile again. Every tyro at the school had dates with her, though, in which she performed like a wildcat, again and again, into the night… but none were verifiable. The guys whose word was good said that she always turned down dates. In fact, she didn’t much seem to want to go out with anyone. Ever. She was never seen at parties or social gatherings any more, or in extracurricular events. It’s like she simply went to school… and then went home… and stayed there until forced to go to school again.

She was a junior when I graduated. I have no clue what happened to her after I left town. Her reputation still flourished, though, nurtured and embellished, and passed on to each new freshman class.


I’ll be thirty-nine this year. This happened a long time ago, but in some ways, it haunts me still. I can’t say I got it as bad as Sherrie did, but I certainly got the same choice she did: cooperate or suffer.

She and I learned the same lesson that night: that just because you think you know someone doesn’t mean you know someone. And even if you do know someone, you can’t necessarily count on them being the same guy you know when he’s drunk and in the middle of a mob.

And sometimes the bad guys win.

I still feel a little ashamed of myself for not doing something, for not speaking out, for not charging in, singlehandedly, and saving the day, with my strength the strength of ten because my heart was pure.

And a little voice in the back of my head says, quite rationally, “And you would have been beat bloody and perhaps killed, by sixteen drunk and dangerous guys. And you wouldn’t have saved the lady fair.”

And then the other little voice pipes up, “Yeah, but you could have at least tried.”

Hm.

Maybe I should have put “Long” in the title.

And yeah, I know, at one point there are twenty guys and at another point, there are sixteen. So sue me. I was writing in a white heat, and I don’t remember for sure HOW many guys there were.

Get over it.

You are not her brother, nor her father, nor her son.

You are not obligated to die for this person. Because that is what would have happened!

Moreover, the only time one guy can beat more than one other guy is in the movies!

Stop accepting a delusion! Self-reproachment is immoral in this case. It is immoral to commit spiritual violence upon yourself just because fictional characters like James Bond can lick their own weight in hoodlums.

Guilt over this makes as little sense as, say, me feeling guilty over the 9/11 WTC destruction, just because Superman could have stopped it, but I didn’t.

Ask your principal if you can teach a class or two about why date rape ain’t funny. You could prevent two or three rapes in each class.

You are of course correct. And I will admit to a little poetic license with the ending.

I didn’t rape anyone. I tried to talk the perpetrators out of it. And while I doubt I would have been killed, I suspect I could have gotten pretty badly hurt.

…but as to “getting over it,” I’m over it. As over it as anybody gets over a traumatic kind of thing, particularly when one is a teener. I mean, I’m not ripping my heart out over this on a daily basis or anything.

I still wish I cooda done something. For a long time, when I was sixteen, my conscience bugged me for not going to the cops, or doing SOME damn thing… but if Sherrie wasn’t going to report it, what the hell was I supposed to do?

So I got kind of jacked over, too. I hesitate to use the word “rape,” since I barely had to deal with any VIOLENCE, much less violation… but I still feel the scar, sometimes, so to speak, when it gets cold.

And it got pretty cold in class yesterday.

I dunno about teaching it. I mean, there’s something about classroom environments that causes some kids to shut down completely and plug their ears until they breathe the sweet air of freedom, you know? And generally, those are the kids that most need the message, the knowledge, the experience you’re trying to share with 'em.

No, I believe that if this is to be properly disseminated to the right audience, I’m going to have to go stealth on them. Not sure how I’m going to do that yet, but now that I have the thing in writing, I have a beginning…

Her word against theirs, maybe, but she was 14, that’s probably statutory rape no matter what. And how do you know she wasn’t going to report it? While it was going on you still had a chance to run into town, call the cops, and get the cops out there maybe before, say, someone got a little too rough and they decided they needed to get rid of any evidence.

Hindsight is 20/20, my friend. We’ve all been in a situation where we had the luxury to say “What if…”. However, our choices aren’t always life changing. I don’t envy you your position, and I wish you relative peace of mind soon, in regards to your story.

Yeah, sometimes a bad guy wins - he counts on the girl being scared and ashamed, and shutting up about it. Sometimes, she lets enough details slip, accidentally, to enough male friends, who talk behind her back and put together the pieces about who did this to their friend. Sometimes the friends stop the date rapist in a deserted area, question him about what he did to their friend, and visibly scare the hell out of him with threats that he’d better never mess with a woman again, because if they hear about it, next time will involve more than a confrontation. And sometimes that does help the woman feel better later on. I’m just saying, y’know.

I can’t be optimistic enough to think that all those guys got confronted or beat up or something. But at least one guy at the party didn’t act all eager to “get some” from her. She knows there was one guy there who didn’t treat her like garbage, even though he was scared and was threatened.

You might deal with twinges of regret and pain over what happened. They have to live with being scum, and we can hope that at least something karmic comes around for them.

I’ve wondered about that more than once.

Whenever I begin to feel sorry for myself for wussin’ out, I sometimes think about how some of those guys might feel these days for going ahead with the plan…

Thanks for sharing the story with us. I do like the SDMB for its Warm Fuzzies, but it’s good to have threads like these.

You can’t change the past, and everyone has experiences they would like to change if they had the foresight. The most we can hope for is to learn from our past experiences.

Peace.

This is a good argument for sex education. Girls need to understand their sexual response, have a good idea of what the hell is happening to them, and be confident enough about their own bodies to set limits. They need to know what rape is and how to report it. This is essential.

Boy also need to learn what rape is and how to report it. They need to know- before they are teenagers- exactly what constitutes rape, how to obtain consent, and how to report it.

The sad thing is that this isn’t limited to immature high school kids. This happens in colleges all the time.

Um, sven? Would you have needed to take a class as a kid in order to know that hitting someone in the head with an axe was a bad thing?

You’re right about one thing, though. This scenario is repeated probably every single weekend (if not every night) throughout the US on college campuses. Hell it probably happens at least once a year on EVERY college campus. Back in my sorority days we knew in what frat houses it wasn’t safe to set our drinks down on the table.

Wang-Ka, it was 20something years ago. There is no point in beating yourself up because there is not a thing in the world you can do about it now. All you can do is hope karma catches up to those bastards.

I know. I really don’t mean to give the impression I’m still squirrelly over something that happened 24 years ago.

Weirdly enough, I haven’t written about it until now because I frankly didn’t wanna take it out and relive it, you know?

And now, after having written it… I feel better about it. I mean, I still would rather it have never happened, but I feel less personally responsible for it, too, y’know?

When I was fifteen, I dated a guy nearly four years older than me, who really seemed to believe that sex was the male prerogative. If I knew then what I know now, I would have left that guy in the dust. I didn’t.

Date rape happens in high school and in college and in the real world.

There are good guys, like Wang Ka, who not only treat their ladies like ladies, but who speak up for those who need the help.

There are bad guys like Turtle, from the OP. Who are blind to everything but their own lust, and the power it infers on them.

And there are quite a few who don’t think about it until it up and smacks them in the face.

Educating young kids about the rights and wrongs of sex, rape and violence, and about what is a reasonable risk vs a damn stupid one, is smart. And, Wang ka, if your student who felt safe by virtue of being known won’t listen, her friend sure as hell will.

This sounds exactly what happened to my father, nearly the same situation, except there were 4-5 guys, and they were in middle school, and the girl was mentally retarded, and they had knives.

Wait … is her name Shellie, or Sherrie? 'Cause you called her both.

No, you didn’t need to put “long” in the title. Wang-Ka, I’ve always admired the nerve you had in selecting your screen name. Now I know why. I’m proud to say that I admire you.

'Nuff said about that.

I’m going to start a thread about being “one of the boys” tonight or tomorrow and I’d be glad to have you contribute to it. I hope you don’t lose any sleep over what you had little control over. If I could, I’d buy you a drink right now. Obviously, the ones you had so many nights ago didn’t cloud your judgement then, or now.

Bosda, dude, you’re wrong. Totally. But that’s good, because what’s right is equally visible.

Get over it? That means it’s over. And if you ran into Shellie in person, do you think it’d be over for her? If one of those guys, or more (or most) lost their virginity to her, do you think they remember? Do you think they remember that their first was a drunk fourteen-year-old girl who had no choice in the matter? How do they get over the fact that the first time they had sexual intercourse, their unwilling partner was being raped by more than a dozen men over the course of a few hours?

And how do they tell future girlfriends that? Nothing but the most apologetic, “I was the stupidest piece of flesh you ever met that night” beginning could prepare the listener for the end.

Sometimes in trying to get over things like this we so separate ourselves from the situation as a whole that we lose what lessons we had gained from it. And that makes all that pain, all that hurt, all that doubt and anxious possibility and struggle to make it right … worthless. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

He is not her brother, nor her father, nor her son. And does it make a whit of difference? I say no. If I see some kid getting hurt by another kid, and I have no tangible connection to either of them, am I absolved of all wrongdoing (or, better put, nondoing) by that?

No. We help people because it is in our nature. And when we try to help people it is in that same nature. Whether it’s something menial or—to us—pointless (time of day, directions, letting someone cut in front of us in a grocery line, etc.), or it’s something like donating an organ or doing extensive pro bono work or giving our life for someone … it is in our nature.

And we do so even as we know we are helping those who might act quite differently to us in a different situation. I can remember more than a hundred people who made me feel like shit several times who I tutored, helped to pass a class.

Why?

Because helping people is in our nature. We are a social animal.

Unfortunately, within that social construct is, possibly also inherent, the desire for dominance. We see it every day of our lives … who’s going to win the game? Who’s the tallest? The fastest? Whose state has the most bizarre claim to fame? From the pointless (largest state bird) to the meaningful (infant mortality rates), we are an animal obsessed with domination, with being on the top.

He was not obligated to die for this person. But that is not what would have happened. Suppose what happened had resulted in a trial … and those who were guilty of statutory rape were tried. And he testified against them. Do you not think for one second that those close to him and close to Shellie would have done everything in their power to keep him safe? Do you not think law enforecement would have realized the danger he would have faced?

It is very possible that, in spite of the best efforts of many, he might have been gotten. But he would have been beaten, not murdered. Had he been murdered, who do you suppose the principle suspects would have been? Think hard about it for a half-second. Shouldn’t take you any longer than that.

Having (possibly) escaped jail once, do you think those boys would be so utterly bereft of common sense (having previously shown a tendency to take leave of the morality that is inherent in most of us) as to sign their own jail tickets, so to speak?

Moreover, the only time one guy can beat more than one other guy is in the movies!

Funny you mention that, because I have done that very thing. No, not movies. I’ve beaten the rest. It was mostly not in physical confrontation where I won, but it did happen more than once.

The odds were stacked heavily against Wang-Ka. There can be no doubt about that. I find no fault in Wang-Ka’s decisions then or now. It is a difficult enough thing to do at 30 or 40 without being a teenager surrounded by one’s physical superiors. But to universally ascribe this Hollywoodesque quality to the good guy winning is reverse idealism.

It is no delusion that he could have helped this girl. Again, I find absolutely no fault within Wang-Ka here … back when this happened I doubt there were many resources he knew of to stop it during the fact or to help the girl after the fact. But it is not the stuff that dreams are made on to envision a scenario where some of it, or all of it, was stopped.
We had a girl like that where I went to high school, Wang-Ka. She wasn’t exactly cold, and she did date, but she was very, very selective.

One day one a semi-popular, scrubby guy “quietly” told a few of his friends that he had been inside her pants.

It quickly became obvious to everyone that he was full of shit and she had never been, at any point, been full of him. Or even close to him. I don’t know what sort of punishment he got for that, but he wasn’t back in that school the following year. I was not told (as it wasn’t much my business) the reason, but part of it might have stemmed from the fact that she was a good bit more popular than he was and she didn’t take kindly to a guy lying about being with her. Her boyfriend for most of that year was the varsity football quarterback, and you did not hear him talking about what he had done to her the night before, or what he planned to do.

I would have reported it to the police.

How do you know they did not do the same thing to someone else later? Even if it wouldn’t help Sherrie, it might have helped someone else.

Of course, you might not have been able to get any of them convicted. I wasn’t even alive back then, so I don’t know how rape allegations from a third party would have been treated. Actually, I don’t even know how such allegations would be treated now.

everyone with cell phones these days probably makes it a lot different. I grew up at the same time. It was a different climate back then. Heck, the 70’s pre-dates “no means no.”

Wang-Ka, you were faced with a difficult situation at a young age, and no one knows what they will do when faced such dire circumstance. Self preservation is a strong urge, and I can understand the guilt you no doubt feel. But you can’t blame yourself for what happened, and nothing you do now can change what happened that night. Perhaps, if this is still such a major issue in your life you it seems to me you should seek out some form of resolution, if not absolution. Don’t get me wrong on the absolution, I don’t think your guilty of anything, but if you feel guilt over something, its likely that you have over time, convinced yourself that you are somehow responsible for how it all turned out.