Sorry, I don’t believe you that my toothpaste will kill me.

[Gedd]

(This is my first Pit thread, I appologize if it’s too light for some.)

Yesterday, as a favor for a friend, my wife went to some kind of cosmetic product party. This vendor’s big selling point is that they use safe, all-natural ingredients whereas every other company uses dangerous toxins that can kill you, give you cancer, make you go blind, etc . :rolleyes: They showed everyone a web site that has a database of 69,000 products and their “hazard ratings.” What kind of hazard?

I checked out a random product on this site, Colgate Kid’s 2 in 1 Toothpaste & Mouthwash, Watermelon. It rates a “5” (0 being “low hazard”, 10 being “high hazard”). They even have a bar graph of different concerns. There is a moderate concern of this toothpaste causing cancer, and almost a high concern in the “allergies & immunotoxicity” category.

It seems their main concern is sodium fluoride and it causing cancer along with “developmental/reproductive toxicity” and neurotoxicity. (Hey, they should team up with the anti-fluoridation nuts). Yes, sodium fluoride can kill you. Wikipedia’s cites say 5-10g would be enough. However since this toothpaste is 0.24% sodium fluoride I would have to consume 16 tubes to get that much. Then there’s also the fact that you don’t eat toothpaste.

As far as their cancer concerns, the American Cancer Society, the World Health Organization, the National Research Council, and several more groups say fluoride doesn’t cause cancer. Darn research.

Looks like Calvin Klein’s “Obsession” is even more dangerous, it scored a 10! Look out, it has oxybenzone in it. The site says “[oxybenzone] contaminates the bodies of 97% of Americans according to Centers for Disease Control research,” except that the CDC doesn’t use the word “contaminates” or even say it is harmful. Plus the EU, FDA, and the Skin Cancer Foundation approve of oxybenzone’s use.

When the hell will we be able to stop fight ignorace and the dumbasses who spread it? Heck these assholes aren’t spreading ignorance, they’re spreading deceit.

Fuck you, you fear-mongering low life scum that distort facts, spread false information, and prey on the innocent. You spew lies to make money taking advantage of people who don’t know better. At least my wife saw right through you. Go eat 16 tubes of toothpaste. Shit, be safe and make it 60.

[Long_Time_First_Time]

At least they didn’t tell you that the reason why commercial toothpaste is dangerous is because it contains chemicals.
FWIW, a described treatment for sarcoids, a type of skin tumor in horses, is topical Crest toothpaste.

Must be Crest, original formula.

[Leaffan]

Pepsi, Coke make changes to avoid cancer warning.

A representative for Coca-Cola, Diana Garza-Ciarlante, said the company directed its caramel suppliers to modify their manufacturing processes to reduce the levels of the chemical 4-methylimidazole, which can be formed during the cooking process and, as a result, may be found in trace amounts in many foods.

A spokesman for the Food and Drug Administration said the petition is being reviewed. But he noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

I too am tired of these kind of nutbars.

[Larry_Mudd]

Don’t eat the browned taters, man!

[Long_Time_First_Time]

At least they didn’t tell you that the reason why commercial toothpaste is dangerous is because it contains chemicals.
FWIW, a described treatment for sarcoids, a type of skin tumor in horses, is topical Crest toothpaste.

Must be Crest, original formula.

[Cat_Whisperer]

The Junk Scientists won a significant victory in Calgary recently - they took the fluoride out of Calgary’s municipal water last year (with no debate and no input from Calgary’s citizens).

[VinylTurnip]

@Cat_Whisperer

The Junk Scientists won a significant victory in Calgary recently - they took the fluoride out of Calgary’s municipal water last year (with no debate and no input from Calgary’s citizens).

I henceforth coin a new pejorative: “Calgary teeth.”

[Grey]

Moo Town Molars

[Eve]

Just wait till you wake up tonight, bound hand and foot, with a tube of Colgate standing over your bed laughing maniacally, brandishing a samurai sword. Don’t say you weren’t warned!

[Buck_Godot]

Obligatory link to the silent killer Dihydro monoxide aka hydric acid

[thelurkinghorror]

Protip: anyone who uses the word “toxins” doesn’t know what it means, and that gives you permission to run screaming. You might avoid some scientists who are using the word properly, but it’s a small price to pay.

“Toxins” don’t “build up” in your body unless you’re munching on Arsenic Treats. You have a very effective way to flush them, i.e. your ass, and you don’t need a colonic to do so.

And the only people who think Colgate is bad for you are crazy people. And Crest (P&G). It’s great your wife didn’t buy anything, products or their metaphoric crap.

[Gedd]

@thelurkinghorror

Protip: anyone who uses the word “toxins” doesn’t know what it means, and that gives you permission to run screaming. You might avoid some scientists who are using the word properly, but it’s a small price to pay.

“Toxins” don’t “build up” in your body unless you’re munching on Arsenic Treats. You have a very effective way to flush them, i.e. your ass, and you don’t need a colonic to do so.

It’s just a good buzz word these days. Technically (IIRC) toxins are organic, which disqualifies the majority of things you hear scares of like mercury or MSG. Anyway though, your body does a pretty good job of getting rid of most of the things that shouldn’t be there.

[Greg_Charles]

@thelurkinghorror

“Toxins” don’t “build up” in your body unless you’re munching on Arsenic Treats.

Thanks, I needed a laugh today!I read “toxins don’t build up”, and in my head said, “what about arsenic?”, setting myself up perfectly for the punchline. Munching on Arsenic Treats … that is brilliant.

[miss_elizabeth]

@Long_Time_First_Time

At least they didn’t tell you that the reason why commercial toothpaste is dangerous is because it contains chemicals.
FWIW, a described treatment for sarcoids, a type of skin tumor in horses, is topical Crest toothpaste.

Must be Crest, original formula.

I heard that somewhere before…

[Dr.Woo]

@Cat_Whisperer

The Junk Scientists won a significant victory in Calgary recently - they took the fluoride out of Calgary’s municipal water last year (with no debate and no input from Calgary’s citizens).

Cheer up. The city of San Jose, California finally approved the fluoridation of its water supply last November. San Jose was - and actually still is - the largest city in the US without fluoridation. Still is, because they’re “studying” the issue and how to implement fluoridation. That study should only take, oh, twenty years or so, and it’ll be followed by some kind of extremely limited pilot program, itself followed by a phased implementation over the next century.

Fucking morons.

[curlcoat]

Attn!!! I am not an anti-flouride nutter - I honestly don’t care either way at my age. I was just wondering why it is so important to have it in the water if it is also in most (all?) toothpastes?

[Folacin]

@curlcoat

Attn!!! I am not an anti-flouride nutter - I honestly don’t care either way at my age. I was just wondering why it is so important to have it in the water if it is also in most (all?) toothpastes?

Not everybody brushes every day, and even when they do, I imagine a lot them do a less than perfect job.

And a question of my own - is the flouride in the water supply considered a topical application (my guess) or does the body deliver it via the blood stream? The latter I guess would only work for kids while their teeth are forming.

[thelurkinghorror]

Just because a city does not have fluoride does not mean is for crazy reasons. Some cities (mine) just don’t see the need to spend money implementing fluoridation. In other words, it wasn’t like they had it and stopped because someone started hitting the Kool-Aid.

Folacin: Wikipedia has some info. Looks like the answer is “both, more of the former as far as the teeth are concerned.”

[BorgHunter]

@thelurkinghorror

Just because a city does not have fluoride does not mean is for crazy reasons. Some cities (mine) just don’t see the need to spend money implementing fluoridation. In other words, it wasn’t like they had it and stopped because someone started hitting the Kool-Aid.

Perhaps not, but that did happen last year in Pinellas County, Florida, where I grew up. And people ask me why I moved away from that boring, godforsaken blight of strip malls, soccer moms, and humidity.

[thelurkinghorror]

I didn’t say it never happened, just that not every non-fluoridated city is full of nutjobs.

From your article, it seems that Clearwater is affected. That surprises me, Clearwater is not a city known for having crazy people in it! I mean, the city is totally not the capital for a crazy religion which has a tenuous grasp on science. Wonder if they didn’t not have something to do with this law.