I believe the guy must have been terrified not to reason that they had his car and knew who he was and where he lived. If he eluded the police, they would be waiting for him at his home.
We had that happen to a guy in my high school. He did the Dukes of Hazard thing down in the oilfields in South Arkansas. Ripping down these country roads that he knew really well. Cops broke off the pursuit. Arrested him that night at his mom’s house. He had a long, long list of charges from that incident. I have no idea how long his license was suspended. Had to be several years.
Or, “When will they learn to bow to their masters?”! :rolleyes:
This happened on an episode of COPS. As the cop brings out the cuffs the dude took off, the last you see of him is his tennis shoes fading away in the distance. After the cop and camera man walk back to patrol car the guy trots back up apologizes and says something like…
Well, as we’ve been told many times on the dope, black people are just genetically faster than other people.
Likely true but not 100%. Taser does make a model, the X2, with two modules (seriously that’s the model name :smack:… silly marketers.)
You need reason to pull the trigger. It’s not a matter of needing a reason to NOT pull the trigger. Simply running/hiding in a lot of states is only a misdemeanor unless there are other elements to bring it up to felony status. Of course the question is SC law…
I continue to come off badlt. :dubious:
Some people have incredible fear of the police. You may or may not consider it rational, but it’s within the realm of possibility that some people’s personal experiences are such that the police are extremely dangerous to be around, or even to cooperate with.
I’ll put it this way – 100 years ago, it would have been entirely reasonable for a black person in South Carolina to be mortally afraid of police officers. The situation is better now overall, but there may still be some people, black and police, who have interacted in ways that some portion of that fear is still reasonable and rational.
Credulous today, aren’t you?
There’s a standard line I use with third graders who try this sort of distraction. The conversation goes something like this:
Me: Bill, did you hit Joe in the bathroom?
Bill: JOE WAS TALKING TO ME AND HE SAID–
Me: Hold up. Stop. Think about what you’re about to say. Do you think that the thing Joe said means that you’re allowed to hit him? Do you think you’re going to tell me what Joe said, and I’ll say, “Oh, that’s fine, never mind”?
Bill: . . . no.
And then I can continue with the conversation. AFTERWARD, if necessary, I’ll ask what Joe said, and figure out if that requires further action. But it generally has no bearing on whatever Bill did.
aceplace, Hold up. Stop. Think about what you’re about to say. Do you think that the thing the dead guy did means that the cop was allowed to shoot him? Do you think you’re going to tell me what the dead guy did, and I’ll say, “Oh, that’s fine, never mind”?
Because if you don’t think so, then leave that shit out of the conversation. It’s not relevant.
Shit. Lots of time when someone gets murdered, they did something to provoke the murderer. Maybe they cheated on their spouse, or maybe they cheated with the murderer’s spouse. Maybe they stole some drugs. Maybe they made fun of the murderer’s mom. Maybe they deliberately and willfully put on that game show that the murderer hates.
But guess what kind of defense we don’t allow in court cases?
Didn’t you just get embarrassed by me in a GQ thread? I’m just going to leave you alone so you can lick your wounds.
I’d feel better if you would say the cop committed murder. Screwed up big time sounds too much like “mistakes were made”. This was a cold-blooding killing coupled by planting of evidence and false testimony. I hope he gets life and is put in a cell with about 4 burly black guys.
As long as we’re keeping it simple, how about police don’t murder people? Is that on your checklist of things to simplify? Cops not murdering people?
And as far as escalating things to a felony, that felony is murder. Just because the shooter was white and just because he wore a badge and just because the victim was black doesn’t make it not murder. Simple, right?
I’m assuming he did have outstanding warrants, why else run?
That’s not the point - he was an obese 50-year old more jogging than running in the direction of the cops partner, and the cop himself at no time issued a verbal warning.
It’s idle, callous, murderous policing.
Here is the local newspaper’s article on the story before the video came out. Note how the cop’s version of the story is the one taken at face value.
This thread is interesting to say the least. You don’t run from cops. You just don’t. When you do you are signalling that you’re potentially dangerous. If you’re lucky the cop will taser you and arrest. The gun is option 2.
There’s consequences for people’s poor choices and actions. Drive 90 mph down a city street. You will probably wreck and die. Running from a cop runs the same risks.
I agree in this situation the cop over reacted. He has been charged with murder and now the facts can be brought before a jury. It does appear in the video that he manipulated the crime scene. That makes him a bad cop. He’ll probably end up in prison.
This wouldn’t have happened if the guy had stayed put. Offered no resistance. Bail bondsman are on call 24/7. He would have been home in time for supper.
No, I just couldn’t pass up the opportunity to make a smart ass remark. Or maybe I was afraid if I ran from it you would shoot me. :eek:
And just how do you know that he wouldn’t have just killed him right there and planted the taser in his hand? I mean, because that is actually what the cop did anyway. Does he have to just stand there and take it? The cop was pretty much shown to be a cold blooded killer on video and yet you contend that he should have just stayed put.
You can’t know that. Maybe the officer would have shot him in the parking lot next to his car. But I agree, running from the police is almost always a bad decision. Many people make many bad decisions. Generally, we don’t excuse murder when that happens.
No one is in any position to declare any part of this. (For all we know, the cop said “hey, I’ll give you a head start … before I start tasering and then shooting”, right?)