Luxury Yacht/Throatwobbler Mangrove anyone?
[QUOTE=pulykamell]
Actually, the “kj” letter combination is pretty interesting, as the “proper” pronunciation in Norweigian is like the “ch” in German “ich,” but is being replaced by the English “sh” among many speakers.
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… which is why the most common english equivalent is “sch” … sorta halfway between.
Seems only appropriate for a professional hockey player, though, doesn’t it?
[QUOTE=bob_loblaw]
… which is why the most common english equivalent is “sch” … sorta halfway between.
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How is “sch” halfway in between? Spelling-wise or pronunciation-wise? “Sch” is pronounced the same as “sh” in English. At least in my dialect, “shell” and “schell” would be the same.
[QUOTE=pulykamell]
How is “sch” halfway in between? Spelling-wise or pronunciation-wise? “Sch” is pronounced the same as “sh” in English. At least in my dialect, “shell” and “schell” would be the same.
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School? 
My favorite name pronunciation is Tallifiero, which in the sourthern US is pronounced Tolliver.
[QUOTE=Leaffan]
Strangely enough, we don’t seem to have much difficulty in Canada pronouncing it “Favre.”
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You mean putting an “eh” in it?
Havre de Grace, Maryland is typically pronounced
Havver dee grayce
Shame too, because ahhve duh grahss sounds much nicer.
Also, knew a Des Jardins growing up who pronounced it dess JAR dins. Ugly.
[QUOTE=mangeorge]
There is the classic “Sade”, the most excellent jazz singer. I think even she pronounces two or three different ways.
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I’ve only ever heard it pronounced Sha-Day! What other ways have you heard it?
[QUOTE=Stuffy]
I’ve only ever heard it pronounced Sha-Day! What other ways have you heard it?
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Sar-day and Shar-day. Also Sa-day.
The first two on PBS concerts. They usually attempt to get it right.
I wonder if there’s anything on wikpedia?
Golfer, Jose Maria Olazabal’s last name is pronounced “O-la-THA-Bul” for some reason.
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
Golfer, Jose Maria Olazabal’s last name is pronounced “O-la-THA-Bul” for some reason.
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I don’t know who he is, but I’m guessing by that pronunciation that he’s Spanish, as “c” (before “e” & “i”) and “z” are pronounced close to English “th” in Castillian Spanish (the Spanish in Spain).
[QUOTE=mangeorge]
Sar-day and Shar-day. Also Sa-day.
The first two on PBS concerts. They usually attempt to get it right.
I wonder if there’s anything on wikpedia?
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“Sade” is a nick for Folasade. It’s Nigerian, and I know a few. They’re all “Sha-day” or “Shar-Day.” I think the cassette of her first album had “Pronounced Shar-Day” on the spine.
[QUOTE=pulykamell]
I don’t know who he is, but I’m guessing by that pronunciation that he’s Spanish, as “c” (before “e” & “i”) and “z” are pronounced close to English “th” in Castillian Spanish (the Spanish in Spain).
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Yep, he is a native Spaniard. I guess that explains it. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Hippy Hollow]
“Sade” is a nick for Folasade. It’s Nigerian, and I know a few. They’re all “Sha-day” or “Shar-Day.” I think the cassette of her first album had “Pronounced Shar-Day” on the spine.
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Yeah, that fits with what I’ve heard on radio stations too. It is a stretch, though, for someone who doesn’t know.
I think I have that cassette somewhere.
Thanks for the “horses mouth” report. 
That’s the best explanation I’ve heard.
mangeorge