colonial-What’s the record with the new javelin?
Current world record for javelin:
98.48 Jan Zelezný (CZE)
Note that nobody else has thrown better than 93.09 (Aki Parviainen).
So it’s not too far from where the record was when Hohn broke it. His record probably will be broken at some point.
There is a seperate category appearing here of records that cannot be broken because of changes to the sport. The javelin is a good case of that. Even if the distance record is broken, the record for the particular type of javelin thrown by Uwe Hohn may never be broken.
Bradman is the ultimate outlier. His career average is over 50% better than anyone elses including those who played at the same time as him. Some of those players are generally accepted as being amongst the greatest ever (Sutcliffe, Hammond, Hutton, Headley). The averaged in the 50s (Sutcliffe and Headley just reached 60) - Bradman 99.9. The leading players today average in the 50s.
He leads by miles in nearly every category you can name - based on averages. There are many more test matches played these days - Bradman played 52 in 20 years (he had some illness, and WW2 to contend with), but 52 tests is a 4-year career these days. So all Bradman’s aggregate records are broken, but not his averages, runs per test, centuries per innings - pick a stat, he is way out in front.
There is a simple chart on this page that demonstrates it more clearly than words.
It’s close to 100m again, but has not been improved this century.
One record mentioned today was that Ryan Giggs has now scored (for Man Utd obviously) in each of the 21 seasons since the English Premier league started.
Will we ever see that again? He has been a first team pick all that time, pretty much free of serious injury and still fit and able to command a first-team presence at the age of 39. Alex Ferguson is not particularly sentimental so you’d better believe that he is still good enough.
Quite possibly a one-off.
I created a graph (using Excel) of the 97 best test batting averages over time. There doesn’t appear to be much of a long-term trend up or down, and Bradman’s average stands out clearly.
Ryan Giggs has actually scored in 23 consecutive seasons in the English top division for Man Utd (as he started two seasons before the top division was branded the Premiership).
Interestingly Ryan Giggs had his testimonial in 2001, almost 12 years ago!
On the face of it, it does seem incredibly unlikely that Giggs’s record will be broken any time soon. After all, he has had about the longest possible career for a top-level outfield player so for someone to break his record they would have to achieve this first. It looks like the next nearest is Paul Scholes with 19 consecutive scoring seasons in the top flight, but he is out of contract at the end of this season (as is Giggs, I think) and having already retired once, it seems likely he will hang up his boots. Gary Speed scored in 16 consecutive Premier League seasons (and up to 4 First Division seasons prior to that, which was effectively the same thing) but that was with 4 different clubs.
So I would say the record of 23 top-flight scoring seasons with the same club is pretty secure, unless football ends the transfer system entirely or we see significant increases in the longevity of outfield players. Or I suppose the other possibility is a goalkeeper who takes free-kicks/penalties, but I can’t see any modern manager allowing that in open play (i.e. outside a penalty shoot-out).
While I don’t think his strikeout record will ever be broken; I’d bet big money that his No Hitter record will ever get broken in MLB. He has seven, the closest to him four.
There’s an interesting wiki article I came across: List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable
Although there is nothing stopping it from happening, I can’t see any school coming close to John Wooden and UCLA with national championships. 7 NCAA championships in a row. 12 in ten years. Under the current rules with kids jumping to the pros, I can’t see any school having that kind of dynasty.
The Yankees’ run of 5 World Series championships (1949-1953) won’t ever be topped. It’s just too hard with two rounds of playoffs preceding the WS.
Nor will any MLB team ever surpass the Yankees in total number of championships.
And since we’re talking about basketball championships, the Celtics going 11 for 13 in championships from 1957-1969, including an 8-year stretch of winning it all, will be difficult to beat. Chicago might have tied the 8-0 stretch had Jordan not been suspended…, er, retired to play baseball, but they would not have gone 11 for 13.
And the last two years ('68, '69) were with Russell doubling as a player-coach. (He coached in 1967 as well, one of the two years in that span which they didn’t win.)
Bolding mine.
I agree. That’s a record that will NEVER be broken!
I don’t think it’s “kids jumping to the pros” so much as UCLA’s streak was during the period when only one team per conference could be in the tournament. It didn’t hurt that there were very few really tall players back then.
In fact, the “one and done” rule may actually be the one thing that results in this record being broken, if some school becomes “NBA Prep U” and the NCAA does nothing about it - for example, taking away one “first time” scholarship for every two players who declare themselves in the NBA Draft after only one year (or, lose one for every player who drops out of school without completing one year of satisfactory progress toward a degree, to prevent players on their way out from not attending classes during their sprnig semester since they’re going to drop out of school the day after the team’s tournament run ends anyway).
Also, for many years, the top seeds didn’t have to play all rounds of the NCAA tournament.
For example, in 1967 UCLA only had to play in four rounds, while Dayton (their championship game opponents) had to play in five.
I see it as just the opposite. There are a lot more schools out there now that are considered good basketball schools. In the Wooden era that was a much smaller group. The popularity of basketball is much greater and just about every division 1 team has every game on TV. The talent is much more spread out.
The one team per conference thing is a good point. The tournament is much different now. A lot less dead weight.
“Hey! My team isn’t quite as shitty as yours!”
I have a few candidates from other football leagues:
Teodoro Fernández: I can’t find his season-by-season record, but given that he was top scorer in the league in first season, had a career average of 0.87 goals per game and scored a hat-trick in his last ever game, which was one of the biggest games in the Peruvian football calender, I find it highly unlikely that he did not score in every one of his 22 consecutive seasons in the Peruvian top flight for Universitario de Deportes unless he missed a season through injury.
Ernst Kuzorra: again no season by season record is available, but given that he was one of the most prolific scorers of his era I again find it highly unlikely that he did not score in every one of his 23 consecutive seasons for Schalke 04 (despite the fact he played during WWII, I don’t believe Schalke actually missed a season). Schalke for much of the time he was there were the dominant club in German football, winning the National Championship. The only thing I would say is at the time German/West German football, whilst having many great players, was amateur and the leagues were regional, with the national champions being decided by play-off (a bit like American Football). Interestingly at the start of the height of his success with Schalke 04, Kuzorra also coached Borussia Dortmund, who were later to become Schalke’s arch-rivals.