ST:TOS episodes you genuinely love that others hold to be mediocre at best

I’d blissfully forgotten it too, until you reminded me. BLECH!

Yeah, but the odds of stumbling on another one are still zero.

But I like *Miri *decently well. I hand-wave the duplicate earth thing away with the belief there’s a reason for it that we never learn.

And Alternative Factor. Make fun of me. I deserve it. I think the first couple of acts make a decent mystery, and I was young when I first saw it, so the final image of the two Lazaruses engaged in a fight between universes *forever *was *very *upsetting.

The Empath - as someone who can’t hear the difference between “pen” and “pin” (born in Birmingham, Bamalama), I always wondered why McCoy named the empath “Jim.”

I’m kind of mainstream in that I hate the same episodes everyone else does. :slight_smile:

What’s the verdict on Who Mourns For Adonais? I like that one. Adonais was sort of a tragic figure. He wasn’t a god, he just had a particular skill set that most people don’t and he got used to being worshiped for it. And he didn’t know what to do with his life when people stopped caring. Sounds like every professional sports player. or actor.

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Interestingly, those are the only two episodes that featured guest actor Morgan Woodward, as Simon van Gelder in “Dagger of the Mind,” and as Captain Tracey in “The Omega Glory.” His performance in “The Omega Glory” is strong enough to keep that episode out of the “bad episode” list. It certainly belongs in the “awful script” list, though. :slight_smile:

I remember it, but it still seems pretty bad. I always pictured that some Paramount exec must have had Roddenberry up against a wall & forced him to add his trophy wife
as a lead in an episode devoted to her passions: modern dance, fashion design and mime. :smack:

“Dammit, I’m a Producer, not a Twyla Tharp Choreographer…! What the Hell am I supposed to do with her!?”
"Just Do it. And be grateful that she doesn’t play accordion…


There are parts of “And The Children Shall Lead” that I still hate, but its so bad its a natural for MST3K screen heckling.

“…Who…has…Summoned…Me…”
“I did. Its that Gilligan; he’s broken the professor’s radio and he’s REALLY Pissed…”

I like Miri too. Maybe because I was about the age of the kids running around the deserted planet when I watched it.

Nitpick: The character was Apollo. “Adonais” is a Hebrew word meaning gods or deities.

I’ve always liked “The Changeling” and “The Tholian Web,” but I’ve never seen either of them on anyone else’s best (or worst) list. “The Lights of Zetar” (written by Shari Lewis and her husband Jeremy Tarcher) has always been my least favorite… though “The Alternative Factor” gets honorable mention for Least Coherent Plot and Most Boring.

Spock displayed mental powers far earlier than that, way near the beginning of the first season in “The Dagger of the Mind.” But “Omega Glory” shows that he is seriously restraining himself. He’s much more powerful than a Betazed; he just has more scruples.

You fight my ignorance, Sir.
Cecil would be proud! :slight_smile:

I’m rather fond of “The Way to Eden” (a.k.a. “the one with the space hippies”).

Yes, I know, there is a lot of 1960s silliness. But, in between the silly scenes, it does raise some interesting questions about rights and responsibilities, leaders and followers, nature and technology.

The original script was better: Caroline was found to be pregnant with Apollo’s child at the end.

I always wondered why they cast hot blonde Julie Parrish in that role. The surname “Palomos” clearly indicates that a more “Grecian” character was envisioned.*

*Yes, I know the Ancient Greeks were a remarkably diverse people, but still…

Actually, I (and several people I know) thought it was “Who Mourns For Adonis?” until a Jewish friend set me straight back in 1990.

I can find something to enjoy in every ep, even the bad and the mediocre.

Even Lazarus.

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Sadly…, yes…, even the Space Ghost ep. :frowning:

“Baruch atah Adonai”, and all that. :slight_smile:

“Blessed are you, our Lord.”

Actually, contrary to expectation, it seems that many planets are covered in large Styrofoam rocks, so it may be reasonable.

I’ve always thought “Web” was one of the few genuinely good episodes of the third season. IMHO, “Lights” sucked. Not surprising, since it was written by two people who, while they may have been Trek fans, clearly neither knew nor understood science fiction.

“The Changeling” wasn’t bad, but I found it hard to believe that (a) Kirk should be so foolish as to reveal his true identity, and (b) NOMAD was so easily tricked into destroying itself (not the first time that happened, either).

My guess is it would be ranked in the top 50%. I certainly enjoyed it even if the advanced alien posing as a god is an overused theme on Star Trek.

BTW, the premier episode of Star Trek Continues is a sequel to Who Mourns For Adonais with Michael Forest reprising his role as Apollo:

For a fan produced series, I think they do an awesome job.

The only thing that kills me about Who Mourns for Adonais is how close they came to a reasonable and rational agreement. Apollo is the god of reason, right?

“Listen, Apollo, we can’t stay here and worship you. But do you know how many billions of people there are in the Federation? Scholars would fight each other with knives to come and listen to you talk about the old times. Neo-Pagans and Mythic Revivalists would sign up by the tens of thousands to come and worship you. You’d have an entire neo-Athenian civilization here, of people who want to come to you. You’ll be part of the Federation. We’ll trade to mutual profit, and we’ll learn from your wisdom. Just not us!”

Happiest possible ending, but blown because Kirk wasn’t diplomatic enough and Apollo was impatient.

I’d never considered that until now, but that’s a great ending, right up there with By Any Other Name. “We won’t welcome invaders, but we’ll welcome friends.” It’s the Federation way - beat them, then ask them to join.