Stand Yer Ground: a drunk, scared teen looking for help might knock on your door

Apparently we’re drawing the line at shooting teenage girls for being black.

He was convicted of second-degree murder
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/07/theodore-wafer-guilty-renisha-mcbride_n_5655163.html

I live in the area. This has been covered extensively. The girls father said in a radio interview that he did not believe that race played a factor in the shooting. If I can find a cite or transcript I will post it.

Cite for her father saying race was not a factor

http://www.pressandguide.com/articles/2014/08/08/news/doc53e256bb294c3216761443.txt?viewmode=fullstory

Race is a non-issue here.

The fact that my daughter might be slightly stupid, wreck her car, seek help from a nearby house and end up in pieces on the owner’s front lawn is.

Even IF race is largely a non-issue here, I can’t help wondering… has any media outlet told us the racial makeup of the jury?

If Wafer was convicted by a largely WHITE jury, that means more to me than if he was convicted by a mostly black jury.

Yeah, what is this frame of mind under which “young person at the door in the night” is to be presumed a threat to be met with deadly force. So by now the presumption is that any “normal” person will just stay put and call for help on their mobile phone, and NOT approach people’s homes, ever?

And if so, have they got the makeup correct? Because in the Zimmerman trial that didn’t happen. Anyway- eight jurors were white and four were black. The author of this piece breaks down the racial composition of the jury to a point where you may feel vaguely uncomfortable, but anyway, that answers the question. :wink:

There are a few out there; presumably not that common, though. Here is one first-degree murder conviction, and another. Here is a guilty plea with life sentence. Here is a white defendant convicted of murdering two Latino/a victims. Manslaughter by a police officer.

It’s pretty common in “stand your ground” cases; a white person killing a black one is much more likely to get off without punishment than the other way around.

You don’t have some stats to back that up, do you?

Any evidence or cite for this because this looks like an outlandishly stupid statement.

From here.
And, this.

Just to put a cap on this case, the shooter was sentenced to at least 17 years in prison.

Who the hell are these people whose guns go off “accidentally”?

I have yet to have this happen. Nor has anyone I know.

I have a number of military, LEO, and hunters among my family and friends. So that’s a good number of firearm hours.

I guess he wasn’t following the “don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you’re fixin’ to shoot something right then” rule.

Indeed, I have always been suspect of the claim of a gun going off “accidentally”. (The exception being a dropped gun firing.) IMHO the claim is so often used for euphemistically describing unfortunate delicate circumstances (he was “cleaning his gun” and it “went off accidentally” into his temple) that many people in other circumstances actually think they can make the claim and it will be believed.