Standard recommended amount of exercise is not enough

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Did OP only pay for 20 posts of argument?

It’s more that you seem to feel anyone who doesn’t find 1.5-2 hours a day to exercise is slacking. I mean, if it’s your passion and you love it, fine, but suggesting people should universally give up so much of their leisure and family time, above and beyond the recommendations, seems ridiculous. They have passions of their own that they want to pursue.

Totally agree, and I say this as someone who does choose to exercise for 1.5-2 hours per day. But I do it because I don’t have a regular job, because I’m lucky enough to have a setup at home where I can do other things at the same time, and because the high level of fitness is valuable to me for difficult backpacking excursions. It’s a personal choice for how to spend my time, not “better” than someone who has other priorities.

Well, I did reply in a general way. I said I was guilty of assuming the amount of exercise I do is ideal. I don’t want to get involved in arguing the nitty gritty details. I’m a bad boy. Send me to the Abuse Room.

That’s a start.

I’m sorry I gave that impression. It’s certainly not how I feel. I engcourage everyone to get lots of exercise, but I try not to be Jeff the Cyclist. I apologise to everyone who got that impression.

But, like I said, even when we were training for competitive distance running we weren’t doing anywhere near that amount of exercise per week. Maybe half. What kind of exercise is someone doing that it takes them 45 minutes to just warm up? That just seems highly inefficient to me. Do some HIIT (high intensity interval training, if your body can handle it) and be done with it. You can do that with weights, too, if you’d prefer. Do some circuits. Doesn’t take anything like 90 minutes a day to pump up your VO2 max, get your resting pulse down, and speed up your recovery time.

It does if you’re posting to SDMB between sets, and also trying to watch Endeavour on the TV, as I am now.

I bicycle. It takes about that long to warm up for that. You can get knee problems if you go out too hard, too soon. AIUI, professional cyclists warm up on stationary cycles for about an hour before their races.

As far as efficiency, I’m retired so I have plenty of time.

Oh, my back hurts, it really isn’t a fine day and I’m sick and tired of this office!

My cardiologist said I should do 45 minutes of walking, 6 days per week. She didn’t say how fast I should walk or if I should have a target heart rate for the most intense period of walking, or anything. So I assumed that she wants me to do more than I am doing, and to do it regularly. That is how I think of exercise recommendations: if you have more than average risk factors, chances are you are doing less exercise than you should. So do more. Don’t go crazy.

How many people do you think are as cautious as you are about avoiding injury? Do you think that injuring one’s body would perhaps negate at least some of the health benefit of exercise?

Dunno. I learned it the hard way.

I’m sure it would. But people new to exercizing are usually not in good enough shape to go out too hard too fast.

Personal anecdote, I walk 5/7 mornings for at least 30 -45 minutes per morning, longer on weekends. I use a GPS tracking app and I’m consistently getting just under 9 minutes per km which is just over 4mph. I gather that’s a classed as a brisk pace for someone in their late 50’s. That’s enough to get the heart rate up from a resting rate of high 60’s to between 130-180 bpm.

I also follow up with a routine with a 16kg kettlebell and 10kg Y bell most mornings that takes about 10-15 minutes and my GP is very happy with that. No suggestion it needs to increase.

For context, just on 2 years ago I had bulked up a bit to 105kg (I’m 191cm) , blood sugar and cholesterol were both up, so I did a 28 day diet program based on the Insulin Index and dropped 15kg in less than 2 months.

Despite reverting back to a normal, sensibly healthy diet, I’ve maintained a weight of 90kg for the past 2 years with the exercise. All blood results remain good.

With the walking, I started off walking a fair bit slower than that and mixing in periods of jogging. The jogging was good for the lung capacity but lousy on the knees, so I dropped the jogging and just do the walking and cruise along pain free. It’s like meditation.

Before my stupid back decided to not cooperate, I was walking between 3-5 miles every day. But that was also during a time when I wasn’t employed. I have to say, I loved it. I could eat with a little more freedom than I have now and it just gets the cobwebs out to get a good workout in when you can.

I can’t do much walking anymore and I miss it tons.

I hear you. A crook back is no good. Covid lockdowns and working from home have been a blessing, I use the time I used to spend commuting to work in the morning to exercise.

This is not supported by the study.

This is exactly what my cardiologist told me after my double-bypass surgery in 2019. I try to walk an hour each day, seven days a week, although I occasionally miss a day. My annual checkups reveal that my heart and lungs are in good shape.

It’s also a good way to catch up on podcasts and/or audiobooks.

My doctor told me to walk five miles a day.

I called him a week later and said, “Hey, Doc ! I’m thirty-five miles from home !”

[we’re here all week. Tip your bartenders]

Nope. It was my opinion. I suppose I should have marked it as opinion more explicitly.

You exercise 2½ to 3 hours per day?

Most people work 8+ hours per day, plus an often-unpaid-but-required one hour “lunch” break, plus commuting. If you have a family, that takes time. Then you have to sleep, with a recommended amount of 7-9 hours per day. Then there’s all the quotidian details like eating, showering, cleaning, etc. Then there’s personal time such as non-exercise hobbies including reading and watching TV.

Am I the only one who finds it difficult to imagine squeezing all of the above into 24 hours?