Star Trek Discovery Episode 5

I seem to recall a “shit” or two in some of the movies.

They got more daring in ST:IV…

Kirk: Well, uh, double dumb-ass on you!


Spock: They like you very much, but they are not the hell “your” whales.

Dr. Gillian Taylor: I suppose they told you that.

Spock: The hell they did.


Kirk: Spock, where the hell’s the power you promised?

Spock: One damn minute, Admiral.


Gillian: You’re not from the military are you? Trying to teach whales to retrieve torpedoes or some dipshit stuff like that?

Kirk: No, ma’am. No dipshit.


There may be other ‘colorful metaphores’ that I have missed.

Data says “shit” in Generations.

Also, it never occurred to me that “angry grizzled prison guy” in the earlier previews was actually Harry Mudd.

Yeah - great times - the classics.

That episode went basically how I expected it, though I was expecting Michael to be the one to take the Tardigrade DNA. (OTOH, given the last shot of Stamets, I suppose they have a good reason not to have it be her.)

I do hope they’re not planning to kill Stamets off through this. We’re past the point where Bury Your Gays is an acceptable trope, and since they’re only the second canonical gay couple in the franchise, it’s kind of impossible to avoid falling into that trope if they go there.

About that, though…I was briefly kind of confused by his scene with the doctor - while I hadn’t known Stamets was gay going into the series, as I basically avoided all the promotional stuff, I twigged to it pretty early… But I’d thought he was with the scientist on the other ship. In the interest of avoiding BYG, I’m kind of glad he wasn’t, obviously, but, wow, that totally felt like a romantic relationship. I wonder if the doctor ever got jealous.

This felt more like Trek—but still, skimmed off the surface, without much underneath. Ultimately, it just doesn’t seem to hang together—so the Klingons can just warp in and abduct Lorca? Humans are the only species able to control the spore drive (besides giant tardigrades)?

I think what I’m missing—as I did with the new movies—is the sense that there’s an actual universe behind it all that we’re just catching glimpses of. Instead, it just feels like those glimpses and tenuous connections between them are all there is. It kind of feels careless, like the people in the writing room go ‘eh, that’s good enough’ a little too frequently.

But I do think there’s been improvement, so let’s see where this goes.

Was watching clips from that Voyager ep about the Omega molecule…initial incident was 100 years prior. Close enough to make an interesting ep about. They could easily tie it into Discovery.

I had read somewhere a long time ago there might be a gay couple on the show and at the beginning of this ep, I started wondering about that. Haven’t seen them yet, wonder if there will be? Then, the captain and the Lt. on the Klingon prison ship… would they? WOULD THEY?? That would be sooooo cool!

Nope, they went with the cliche biracial ever so slightly effeminate couple. Bummer. Oh well. Before the end of the season, they’ll adopt a child, and she will be Asian. Calling it now. :slight_smile:

Otherwise, good ep. I’m liking it. It’s in the Star Trek franchise, but not Star Trek, and I like that so far.

Who the heck is the sort of android looking female on the bridge? A different species? And I really want to know who the even more robot looking female was in the first ep.

There was a glimmer… a small glimmer of the ST I’m looking for this episode. Burnam and Stamets for the first time acted like what I would consider matching the behavior of “Starfleet Officers.” (for themselves, or really anyone on the show with the possible exceptions of Giorgiou and Tilly). Lorca’s gotta either change his ways or go. He’s a villain in my book, thus far. And Saru, for all that he tried to emulate his list of great captains, just ended up acting like Lorca anyway. Yeah, the Starfleet I know is still in the future at this point. But I’m not asking them to be all Picard all the time. Kirk wouldn’t torture an innocent lifeform like that, and he’s only a few years away. I doubt even Archer, in the height of his Xindi-revenge madness, would have.