Star Trek Discovery Episode 7 (Week of 10/29/17)

But the federation is aware of this crystal - since Michael identified it pretty quickly (well, 59 iterations * 30 minutes apiece quickly).

I agree otherwise - access to such tech can come in pretty darn handy - maybe its the Omega 30 device ? or do they have to request it from the Mimicks?

IIRC, they were aware of it in theory, but thought it was impossible in practice—no Federation civilization had ever succeeded in making one.

I wonder if the the fan theory has it backwards. He was a human agent posing as a Klingon and this was essentially his extraction.

The guy that played Mudd, was that the guy from the fringe

no he was the guy from the office

Yes. Mudd comes from Rainn.

Pet theories of the week:

Stammets is the Mirror Universe version. Except the Mirror Uni version is nice and doesn’t want to go back and they totally stole that from South Park.

Lorca is Garth.

There’s definitely something funny going on - not timelines, I think, but realities/universes.
Look, I can swallow the shiny fancy bridge and other sets - different times of production and all that. I can even swallow there being no mention of the spore drive in TOS, and can explain it in-universe as being a one-off experiment that didn’t pan out, and so never got mentioned.

What I can’t swallow is the enormous difference in characterization between Mudd (TOS) and Mudd (Discovery). TOS Mudd is a conman, a liar, a swindler - and incompetent. Disc Mudd is a psychopath. How on earth could he go from psycho to conman in just ten or so years? It just doesn’t make any sense. And the writers have to know that.

I haven’t worked it all out, but I have the feeling it has something to do with the spore drive. This mycelium network appears to connect the current reality to all places - who’s to say it’s not also connecting other realities.

Okay, it’s sounding a little weak, but I think I’m on to something…

Michael’s phrasing was ‘Federation-aligned’, though I don’t know if there’s a difference between that and being Federation members (the nature of the Federation in this era has never been entirely clear to me). (Also, ‘stabilizing’, but now we’re definitely in the ‘distinction without a difference’ realm.) But, yeah, you remember more or less right.

I think the difference between the Mudds are closer than what you think.

Mudd was willing to let Enterprise spiral to its death in Mudds Women. He hijacked a Constitution Class cruiser and inadvertantly nearly caused the Feds to be conquered by androids.

I haven’t actually seen the ep, just read synopsi and seen clips. I just watched the bit at the end where he leaves. As soon as Stella appears, Rainn seems to affect a Robert C. Carmel impression.

So I guess after ten years of putting on an act, maybe Mudd ‘became’ that character?

Disco Mudd knows that he’s going to reset time. He’s playing a video game with a defined save point, so all those murders are not real.

But I’m sure the writers also know that when Mudd shows up in TOS, (Mudd’s Women) he has undergone psychiatric treatment.

I don’t think Mudd was as blood thirsty as it seemed. He knew time was going to reset so to him killing everyone was not “real”. It was like game to him, almost literally since nothing counted as far as he was concerned. Note he didn’t kill Lorca when he could have when he knew time was not going to reset.

ETA: I somehow missed that the person right above me made the exact same point. Sorry :slight_smile: