That’s true, the Ship more than any other in the franchise was another character. Also in a weird way, Scotty’s child and Kirk’s mistress. The 1701-A part was a bit silly for me, I’ll forgive a lot but that really went against military history. But the loss of a highly decorated (most decorated I think) ship would and could result in the quick renaming of another to that treasured name. Though it would be one not yet launched of course.
I am still annoyed by the lack of another Yorktown Carrier for the US. That is a name that should have been used again for her service in WWII. Before and especially during Midway. I also very much hope when CVN-65 finally retires, a new Carrier is given that most special name. I feel there should hopefully always be a Big “E” as long as we have a Navy.
When I was in the Navy two of my biggest ship geek thrills was reporting to the USS Ranger at a time when the Kitty Hawk, Ranger and the Enterprise herself were lined up bow to stern at Coronado. 3000’+ of diplomacy.
The other time was as part of a joint fleet with the USS New Jersey BB-62. We were in theory the most powerful peacetime fleet ever assembled. Watching the BB fire guns from the fantail of the Ranger was an amazing sight.
Surprised no one has mentioned the fact that a doctoral level whale biologist and assistant director of the institute is giving tours. I think that there are probably better uses of her time. You don’t see Bill Gates giving tours at Microsoft.
As far as the internal footage of the Enterprises destruction, I figure the Enterprise had a black box like present day Airliners. The external footage? My fanwank is that the BoP automatically transmits data back to Klingon Command, or how about SFC subpoenaed the footage.
Meh. I can easily let this go.
Spock’s clothes that he wears into the tank are visibly wet. You ca clearly see that the is not wearing the robe in the water, and is seen putting it back on after he gets out of the Tank.
Maybe while Scotty was programing the compound he entered the name as well. (It wouldn’t be a new element, possibly an alloy, but that was a molecular structure which would tend to rule that out, I think.
Never important for me either. I always assumed he “borrowed” it some way or another.
Never bothered me. At that point the dilithium crystals were still functioning at a rate where it wasn’t a problem. Power consumption didn’t seem to be a factor in how quickly the crystals were failing.
Maybe he’d only had synthehol beer previously. But I kind of agree on this one.
Stuff like this is often changed from reality for the screen. I think the majority of movie goers would let this slide by without noticing.
See above.
Movie physics. The cloak makes the ship softer maybe?
Treknology only does what it needs to do to further the plot.
Meh.
He’s an alien. Who knows his sensory acuity.
Who’s to say there wasn’t more to the story afterwards. I know there was at least one novel following this up.
The film of the whale models and actual whales was good enough that the filmmakers got in trouble for breaking some law that had to do with how close you were allowed to get to them, until they demonstrated that the shots of concern were models.
Maybe it was a refit of a recommissioned starship. There is generally a shakedown cruise after major refits.
The two garbage men are gay. They moved to San Fransisco to live their dream of picking up garbage in the middle of the night and then having sex with men. Judging by their age and date of the film, I would have guessed they moved there in late '60s or early '70’s.
He didn’t beam her back because she has a nice set of hooters and it is logical to bring her back since she is the only expert on whales.
What makes no sense is that she ships out on a science vessel at the end of the film. I guess she doesn’t care that much about George and Gracie.
Re: The helicopter: I always just assumed that Sulu rented it. How did he pay for it? I dunno, maybe he pawned some stuff from the Bird of Prey. Maybe he sold the rights to the movie.
Re: The 1701-A: I always thought it was actually a re-christened USS Yorktown, and the shakedown cruise due to the system failures caused by the alien Probe that had just passed through. They had to refit everything, and had replaced so much it necessitated a shakedown to make sure nothing would fall off. It was only recently that I started to hear that this wasn’t actually canon.
That said, refit or brand new, my fanwank was that the sudden decommissioning was basically Starfleet burying the hatchet as a gesture while making peace with the Klingons. Take this ship which, along with its predecessor, had been such a pain in their side, and take it out of service to show that the Federation was ready to make nice. They get to make a good gesture, while getting rid of a relatively outdated ship in favor of the new Excelsior (which by STVI, finally had the bugs worked out of the design.) Evidently a good trade, as we see Starfleet using the Excelsiors for a long time, like late seasons of Deep Space Nine long time. I’m pretty sure that’d be kinda like seeing Dreadnought battleships being deployed overseas today.
Gene was an anti-smoking advocate. In TOS they tried to get him to put cigarettes in as product placement. “Space Marlboros” They could be different colors or light themselves or be square instead of round. Roddenberry declined forcefully.
The Excelsior had not been around for years. The events in IV take place only shortly after the events of III. And the Excelsior was just going out on it’s shakedown cruise.
To all those who have wondered what the funny aspect of her comment was regarding George & Gracie, it was a simple reference to George Burns and Gracie Allen. It would be the equivalent of naming a couple of captive animals Abbott & Costello. When people would hear it, they would laugh at the notion of naming a pair of animals after a famous human duo.
At what point did this occur? Roddenberry was a heavy smoker until at least the first season of TOS; he always held his cigarette between the middle and ring fingers of his right (I believe) hand. IIRC, he had both a fag and a drink in his hand when I met him briefly in 1987.
I’d’ve thought Gene Coon’s death from lung cancer would have been enough to make the whole cast and crew kick the habit in the early '70s…
