Star Trek -- the "I saw it" thread **SPOILERS**

Generally you need to lock on to someone with sensors or have an open communicator channel to beam them up. Remember they didn’t know where Pike was, they had to stun a Romulan guard and have Spock mind-read him.

The truth crayfish was presumably removed after they examined him.

Presumably they could have located Pike with sensors remotely, as he was the only human aboard a ship crewed by Romulans. On the other hand, they seemed to be using the transporter despite deflector shields (presumably) being up, which was virtually impossible in all previous iterations of ST.

That was one thing that bugged me about Pike. Why would you give Earth’s defense codes to all your starship captains galavanting around the galaxy? What the hell do they need those for? Besides, they do realize there are mind-readers out there, don’t they?

How old do you think McCoy is? Do you suspect he went to medical school 25 years before the events of the film?

Also he still went to medical school and McCoy at some time in both timelines entered Star Fleet. I’m sure that involves academy time of some sort. Note that it only took him three years, presumably because he enlisted with an advanced degree.

And is the not going to the Academy thing strongly supported in canon?

My fanwank for that is the shields can’t be up if the drill is deployed.

Their sensors couldn’t detect the chamber that Scotty beamed them into properly. He thought it was an empty cargo hold.

Born 2227; Kirk 2233.

His entry says nothing about the academy. Where did you get three years, the film?

It is in line with the Hornblower analogy, where the ship’s surgeon wasn’t trained as an officer.

Yeah, he was joining star fleet after getting a divorce. I assume he was inducting just like Kirk was. The other people on the shuttle appeared to be first years on leave since they had uniforms. And he was ready to go after the three years Kirk spent racing to the finish line I assume they docked a year off his requirement for having an advanced degree.

Yup, it raised a few laughs in the cinema (which was still packed with people 3 or 4 weeks after the premiere).

Speaking of that Romulan, while I was spotting TOS references, I was amused to imagine Bana’s missing ear as a Chopper homage :stuck_out_tongue:

Another thing: if the Bridge crew could read the Kelvin’s captain’s vital signs while he was aboard Nero’s ship 20-some years earlier, you’d think they could do the same - and yank him out in an emergency, using the transporter - for Pike.

I assumed that to a lot of other races, the standard Starfleet hail of “This is Captain Haratio Nelson of the Starship Trafalgar” might appear at times to be rather formulaic and possibly a little pompous sounding.

“I dont care about your name, I dont give a rat’s ass about what rank you achieved, I want to know what your intentions are.”

So, instead of Nero addressing Pike by his rank or last name, he addressed him by his first name. He accomplishes a couple things: 1) He insults Pike in a minor way by ignoring the Rank/Title as unimportant, & 2) Assuming he knows much about the sociology of humans, he adopts a greeting known to be usually only used among friends or colleagues. By starting right away on a first name basis, he confuses Pike, knocking him mentally off balance.

Sunglass-shields up!

Three replies come to mind, two naval and one oddly enough from a James Bond movie:

“I expect you to die, Mr. Bond.”
-Alric Goldfinger

“No Captain can do very wrong if he places his Ship alongside that of an Enemy”
-Horatio Nelson

and my favorite:

“Now I’ve got the son of a whore!”
-John Paul Jones.

In Vulcan, what Spock was saying was Suck it! Suck it hard!
And my friend and I squeed in laughter at this scene.

Excellent point.

And the 2nd-grade teacher tone of voice was just for shits n giggles?:stuck_out_tongue:

Either that or 24th century Romulan universal translators are more sophisticated than those available to Kirk in the 23rd.

Or he’s just a rube and doesn’t realize that you don’t call someone by their given name when they introduced themself with their title.

Or just that he’s a true blue collar captain and doesn’t go in for titles and the like.

I finally got out to see this. I thought it was quite good - an above average movie, but an excellent movie when compared against how much of a disaster it could have been. It’s interesting how perceptions of these things are affected by our expectations.

I went in without having seen much info about the movie. My expectations were pretty low, since I haven’t liked the last couple movies, and there’s so much potential for crap in a reboot like this. Then, there was the scene with little Kirk driving off the cliff, with the Nokia product placement. At that point my expectations went through the floor. I couldn’t believe that scene. It was like something you’d do as a parody of Hollywood nonsense.

So when the rest of the movie was reasonably good, it seemed like it was fantastic.

Or he’s been secretly watching major figures like him for 25 years and feels that he’s on an intimate basis with them.