Star Wars Fans - how would YOU have written the prequels?

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My ideas pretty much run parallel with what’s already being discussed
*No midochlorians. Anakin can still have “no father”; even if he’s illegitamite just having that line there will begin to ping the whole symbolism.

*Anakin is already a reckless teenager who thinks he’s immortal and capable of doing no wrong (because he’s subconsciously using the Force to kick ass and get people to agree with him). Meeting the Jedi will consistute one huge reality check that leaves him less than pleased. Either make him someone you love to hate (i.e., Kefka) or feel sorry for and wish that he wouldn’t go burning down people’s hometowns (i.e. Sephiroth). :smiley:

*No Gungans, except perhaps to die in crowd scenes to show how evil the budding Empire is. :smiley:

*Anakin/Padme/Obi Wan triangle. It so needs to happen. The Jedi should not dictate laws against sex, romance, or emotional involvements in general, but preach priorities, responsibilities, and proper courtship behavior.

FWIW, I rewrote one of the disappointing Padme-&-Anakin domestic scenes from RotS [New and Improved, with Genuine Emotion and Force-Lightning!]. :smiley:

I actually liked the prequels, but I would have
1.) Left out the virgin birth, and given Anakin some deadbeat dad who was in no-way Force sensitive.

2.) Had an Obi-Wan nude scene.

Here’s what I would have done . . .

  • Put Anakin not on Tatooine, but on Naboo. Have him be a generally nice young man, of uncertain fatherhood, who has a natural affinity with the Force. Have what matters to him - maybe he’s got a steady girlfriend with a kid, possibly. Have all of that taken away from him by war. Have him fall under the influence of Jar-Jar Binks, who, rather than being a bumbling moron, is a Gungan terrorist and freedom fighter looking to overthrow the human government of Nabo. Have him learn from them how to kill and be full of hate, and have that anger bring out his talents with the force even more. Then we enter Obi-Wan Kenobi.

  • Have the Old Republic fall at the end of the second movie, and have the third one deal strictly with the rise of the Empire. I want to see fascism, people! Why are all these faceless slobs fighting and dying for them? Let’s see some propaganda, some military music, some stirring speeches.

That would be awesome. :slight_smile:

I would have Anakin and Obi-Wan meet each other while fighting in the Clone Wars. It makes sense to me that they’d have some jedi fighting along with the soldiers. Anakin would be a brilliant pilot with an affinity for the force and that would catch the attention of the jedi there. That would be the first episode.
The third would have the battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan over the volcano.

I need to think more about what I’d put in between.

Well I don’t know about storyline and such but I would have liked to see Yoda as he was when he first met Luke in the Empire Strikes Back. Serious Yoda is boring. Slightly deranged and demented Yoda is movie gold. For two movies we would wonder why the jedis look up to this crazy green midget and in the third movie he flips out like a ninja.

My own “revisions” come from what I had expected before they came out and some of the afforementioned problems with what was made.

I agree with previous posters Anakin should have been much older. Not only would it have made more sense from a training standpoint but there would have been no need to generate some weirdness with Padme being a full ten bloody years his senior. Why make the age issue so glaring?

Second, I had always imagined “The Clone Wars” as just that: A war either between or begun by an army of clones. Either would make more sense than a war begun by seperatists and droids … especially when it becomes clear decades later that nobody seems to know where Stormtroopers come from.

Considering the predisposition of the Star Wars universe to have wide-ranging and intricate politics, a Clone War in which not only armies but just about anybody was a clone seems much more scary than clone vs. droid.

I would put in some plot twists.

There have been a couple of animes where they manage to do flashbacks which reveal new stuff which breaks all the prior assumptions you made. Why not do the same with the Star Wars prequels.

For instance, we could have Yoda being the one who actively endorses Anakin in the prequel. Or Obi-wan actually doing some injustice to Anakin which causes him to turn to the dark side (betrayal by your mentor…that could be one of the few thing that can cause people to go into hatred and bitterness).

I was toying with the idea that Anakin shall have a twin brother and you would always be guessing who’s the one to turn to the dark side.

I have no problem with Lucas wanting to do a kiddy movie. I jsut wish he’d have basically traken it aside and said “this is a kiddy movie and grown-ups won’t enjoy it; watch at your own risk.” Although come to think of it, didn’t he do that at some point?

As noted the back story of the people in the middle three stories are not worth telling. We know who wins and who goes to the Dark Side. No tension.

Tell the story of the robots. They do not age, and so can be characters in all fifty-two SW movies if need be. They have many adventures with Captain Antes (or was it Apollo?) As someone said in a thread, perhaps R2D2 is the secret leader of the rebellion.

In the last of the three prequels, all plans goes to Hell and the only hope for freedom is on a small desert planet.

On preview, this post got real, real long. Looks like you got my attention, Argent Towers. :smiley: I liked Episode III, but the prequels really disappointed me. Everyone’s brought up some really kickass ideas that got me to thinking too.

The Clone Wars
When I was in junior high around '95 a friend of mine introduced me to the EU stuff when I asked him what the Clone Wars actually were. If memory serves, it was his understanding that the Clone Wars involved great leaders, thinkers, etc. who became effectively immortal through cloning. Either as a side-effect of the procedure or because of hubris, they became evil. If Lucas had used a similar concept, calling the conflict the Clone Wars would make a lot more sense than simply having clones involved in the fighting. That would have meshed well with the direction Palpatine’s story went in the EU after the OT, and it would have made a nice backdrop for Anakin’s fall from grace.

Re: Push You Down and Anakin/Darth Vader
Not only was kid-Anakin thing worthless, but the whole plot of TPM was all but unnecessary. By AOTC the trade federation was a footnote anyway. He should have AT LEAST been a teenager, especially re: Sweetums and “Already a great pilot.” I’m also a fan of the idea that Anakin could have filled the Han Solo niche in the prequels. Everyone loves an antihero, but having one’s loose cannon antics come back to bite you in the ass would have been a nice twist on having it pay off in the end like it has in House and suchlike. The idea of a trilogy-wide peer rivalry between Anakin and Dooku ending with a question as to which one really became Darth Vader is, moreover, triple-distilled badassery. Good call, Push You Down (that was you, right?). One of the things that left the prequel trilogy so hollow was the lack of any well developed, specific rivalry like the one between Luke and Vader in the OT.

Re: dotchan and the Anakin/Padme/Obiwan love sandwich
To build on the love triangle idea, Obiwan and Padme could have faked a stillbirth or something like that after reading between the lines with Anakin’s turn. He would have sensed something was up with their scheming, but would have mistaken it for an affair. That, in addition to the loss of his “only” child would have pushed Anakin that much closer to the Dark Side. I’m thinking Palpatine could have exploited that a lot more effectively and sympathetically than appealing to some ill-conceived teen angst. Then, by the time Anakin and Dooku fight for the last time, Anakin’s not fighting to stop the Sith, he’s taking out all his frustrations on some fucker who’d been giving him trouble throughout the whole story until that point.

And to add to the confusion over Darth Vader’s identity, at the end each member of the “triangle” would have thought the other two were dead, with Padme and Obiwan each having independently faked their own death. We wouldn’t have to come up with contrived reasons as to why Leia remembers her mother being “sad,” since Padme would have had to live with the fact that 1.) protecting her children ended up pushing Anakin over to the Dark Side, 2.) as far as she knew he was dead, and 3.) she had to give up one of her kids.

Other stuff people have said
And while I wouldn’t have necessarily been opposed to the idea of having some backstory for characters from the OT and outside of the Skywalker family, I don’t like it when all the central characters have “actually” had some pivotal role in history before, say, showing up as a copilot on a smuggler ship on some barren sandheap. Having Chewbacca and Yoda be old war buddies was bullshit (although having him show up in the battle on Kashyyk was cool). I agree that Bail Organa should have had a more prominent role, and Mon Mothma definitely should have had a bigger part than a cameo in a scene that was ultimately cut. Likewise with Uncle Owen, Tarkin, and others like Akbar and Veers, as others have suggested. I’ve got a couple of ideas:

Tarkin could have showed up as a commander in the army of the Republic with strict methods that would evolve into his brutal methods later. Anakin would still have been good at the time, creating a grudge that would have persisted even though they eventually came to see eye-to-eye.

While Palpatine is announcing the consolidation of the Empire it cuts to a scene on Corellia where a 10 year old Han Solo is playing Stormtrooper or something with his friends, wishing he was old enough to enlist.

Like vibrotronica suggested, Anakin wouldn’t have been from Tatooine. I’d have made Owen his cousin or half-brother and kept his background as a slave. That way they’d have relied on each other working to earn their freedom, but started to disagree and drift apart afterward. Owen would have only wanted to make a decent living, but Anakin’s involvement with the Clone Wars and the Jedi dragged him in. Owen would have taken Luke in out of a sense of duty to Anakin, but resented Obiwan and the Jedi because he had to give up what he had and go into exile on Tatooine too.

No offense to you personally, but this is the only prequel idea I’ve ever heard that was actually worse than what GL did. Plot twists just for the sake of plot twists were done to exhaustion in big Hollywood movies from the mid-'90s up until the early '00s and their addition would’ve made the prequel trilogy that much more annoying and would’ve dated it badly.

Not to say that there weren’t plot twists before or after that time period (as well all know, there was one in the OT), but there was a huge spike in them at the time, and I don’t know any movie that survived the fad (maybe The Sixth Sense, though I personally did not like it.)

We open in space. A warship drops out of hyperspace near the planet Naboo. It is quickly followed by another, then another. The menacing fleet descends on the planet. Transmissions from Naboo are heard challenging the intruders, but no response is given. A squadron of fighters rises from the planet’s surface, but they are quickly brushed aside by the invaders. Inside the darkened control room of the flagship, Darth Tyrannus speaks with his mysterious, cloaked master on hololink. “Lord Sideous, what we could not take with subterfuge, we will take with force!”
Troop transports land on the surface, disgorging platoon after platoon of white-armoured stormtroopers.

Down on the Naboo, Amadala is with her father, the Regent, in Naboo’s makeshift war room. A general reports that the mysterious army is overwhelming their defenses, and that contact with the rest of the galaxy will soon be cut. Amadala races over to a communications console to compose a message to an old friend.

“Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi,” she says. “You’re my only hope.”

The doors to the room are blasted open, and Darth Tyrannus enters, flanked by a squad of stormtroopers.

I wouldn’t. It’s George’s universe and he can do whatever he wants.

Get a different - meaning good - director.,

I bet you’re fun at parties.

Especially when I wear my Greedo shot first–live with it! t-shirt. :smiley:

Actually, I don’t have such a t-shirt–yet.

I respect Lucas’s immense imagination and creativity in making the first trilogy (even ROTJ, which I liked despite the Ewoks, which many people view as a dealbreaker.) But I think people need to accept that a director (or artist, or musician, or anyone) can go downhill. In my opinion, Lucas has gone downhill.

I know your position is unpopular among many fans, Dr. Rieux, and I did state that anyone who liked the prequels the way they were should say so, so thanks for sharing all the same.

I catch a lot of shit because I enjoy ROTJ more than ANH.

The escape from Jabba sequence is just awesome in terms of interesting aliens, fun action and excitement and character development.
Luke goes from getting beaten and chopped up at the end of Empire, to being a complete badass who orchestrates an elaborate escape plan.

I think the Endor land battle is actually really cool. The Ewoks get their asses handed to them by the Empire (with really explicit, for a kid’s adventure movie, scenes of the price of war to boot) until Chewie commandeers the AT-ST.

:mad: Bastaaaaard!

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