Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Seen It (Assume Spoilers Within)

He imagined they might make a new movie. Instead they manufactured merchandise.

You know what? I don’t give a crap. Lucas gave us the prequels and infinite varieties of “special editions” and rehashes of the original trilogy. He really has no room to complain about treatments of his legacy.

Lucas complaining is like somebody letting their house go to shit, selling it for 4 billion and then whining when the new owner fixes it up.

They could have at least manufactured good merchandise. G.I. Joes had 3 3/4" action figures with 14 points of articulation back in 1983. Now Star Wars has gone back to 5.

Perhaps, but the 36" Darth Vader doll I picked up at Wal-Mart last Christmas still manages to this day to scare the hell out of my cat when I move it slowly towards him while humming the Imperial March.

In fairness, one of the few movie franchises that – as of this week – has outgrossed the STAR WARS movies is, well, the JAMES BOND movies. I’m just saying, is all.

They both are not terribly proficient. Which makes sense…

First film i’ve seen in 3D and IMAX. I thought it looked amazing, and I’m not saying that because of the wow factor…I have no desire to see any of the previews in that format. I just thought it was really well filmed for that format. The first row looked like they got taken out by rubble several times.

Music was a bit underwehelming until the fight on the forest planet.

Saw it in IMAX 3D. Thought the IMAX was fantastic. Not sure the 3D added much.

Anyways, on rewatch I found the flaws I identified on first viewing leapt out far more on second viewing. For instance, some of the arguments that have been made focuses around that Rylo Ken isn’t all that proficient in the Force. In rewatch I found that not only is that false, but that Rylo Ken is far more powerful in the Force that I originally remembered. It made the last battle and getting overpowered by Rey in Force grabbing the lightsaber even more disappointing. Though Quimby is correct that Rey (and Finn before him) actually get schooled by Kylo Ren in the lightsaber battle, until Rey remembers the Force and starts becoming a badass lightsaber user… which is also a bit strange, tbh - unless the lightsaber itself has some Force memory.

Just saw SW4:ANH again tonight with two of my sons, one of whom had never seen it before, and the other of whom had seen it but barely remembered it. It still holds up very well (despite the Seventies hairstyles of Hamill and Ford) but also drove home just how similar the plot of SW7 is.

I had forgotten about the informant who leads the stormtroopers to the Millenium Falcon’s hangar bay on Tatooine. Look a little familiar?:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Garindan/Legends

The visual similarity between Kylo Ren and Darth Revan from the Knights of the Old Republic games is too close to be coincidence.

The movie came across as a J.J. Abram’s flavored–lot’s of action, some character development, and a subtle reboot incorporating the various plot points from previous movies.

As for the Dark Force: You folks suck at engineering and “lessons learned.” Even Bond villain’s mock your work. You’ve had three chances to build a working Death Star and all you have to show for it is a fireworks show triology. Even the Three Stooges could kick your ass and they wouldn’t even know because they’d be too busy slapping and poking each others eyes out.

Go find a bunch of girls to beat up in another galaxy far, far away, you sissies…I bet you lose to them, too.

Watched it again. My companion loved it.

Rey mentions she is a pilot, so there should not be a surprise that shd can fly the Falcon. What she seems to have trouble is flying low. She was heading straight up until Finn told her to fly low.

She also was just blocking the saber until the force talk. Then she attacked Kylo. I want to see how Kylo fares after that battle. At the least he’ll have a scar across the face and maybe a leg prosthetic. Also Rey seemed to have anger… or Dark Force.

And like the first time, I think Finn is force sensitive, like Leia.

I think it is coincidence, actually. I think both were going for “Darth Vaderesque”, and any such design will inevitably be pretty similar.

Well, a couple of useless tarps, too.

It had been, several times, and Rey knew who did it and in which order, too - except her knowledge stopped just short of Han’s ownership, for some reason. She didn’t just make herself the next thief, hop in and fly off that hole of a planet, either, although she could have instead of waiting for her parents to finally come get her. And, through all that, she somehow didn’t make the connection that it was the famous Millenium Falcon.

I’ve seen it twice now as well. There are some glaringly bad plot points that become more obvious on repeat viewings.

I’d love to know how many repeat viewings there have been. Given the box office numbers, I’d assume a lot.

I just can’t see myself seeing it again anytime soon because of the plot points I know I will now see clearly.

Wait, that’s me!

You know, I was just playing through Knights of the Old Republic and when it came time to do all the patching and manipulation required to run KotoR II in widescreen, I discovered that Obsidian had actually patched it, more than a decade later, so that it’ll now run on modern screens without need for mods, and the restored content mod has been integrated into Steam Workshop so that it integrates with zero hassle. Plus, right now you can buy the game on Steam for $2.99. I recall being disappointed with how broken the game was, with some parts of the story having spun out without conclusion, but I forgot what delightful interface improvements and depth of storytelling it offered over the original.

Sorry. Back to the movie.

You know, people keep harping on the plot similarities, but really only the skeleton of A New Hope gets reused. It’s a substantially different movie. If they’d said it was meant to be a remake, people would be complaining about the differences being so vast as to hardly count as the same plot at all.

Surely the Falcon isn’t the only Corellian YT-1300 light freighter in the entire galaxy. It’s less like discovering the Batmobile in a junkyard than it is discovering an old Pontiac Firebird in a junkyard and finding out later that it was once owned by Bruce Willis.

How long did Rey stand holding Luke’s light sabre out to him.

Was Luke running a still on Skellig Michael, was he slumbering that long that it took him a few minutes to click that someone had tracked him down and was returning his light sabre? Can we zoom in on the blu-ray release to Ray shaking the sabre a bit in her hand while hissing at him to take it from her?

I expected more from Disney, I got more from any number of their animated films that I took my daughter to see over the past few years.

The great thing about KotOR was that it managed to be better Star Wars than the prequels that came out about the same time, and the story would have made an excellent movie in its own right. Revan was a tragic badass, Malak was a slimy dick, there were Wookies and robot assassins and spacewise urchins and all sorts of cool shit, plus you got to trash an entire Sith Academy. Lucas should have handed the keys to the franchise over 20 years ago and let other people develop his deas, then he’d still be a culture-hero.

…and complaining about Obsidian being “white slavers.”