She is a better actress then Portman was when she did the prequels. Hayden Christensen was a better actor than Adam Driver. Christensen was asked to play a whiny teenager and he, well, delivered as a whiny teenager.Of course, thats not what the storyline needed.
I have never been able to sense the conflict in Kylo Ren, like you were able to with Anakin. Anakin could go from creepy to charming within the same scene, From powerful to vulnerable and back again.
I’ve been very impressed with Daisy Ridley. I understand she is pretty new to acting, and I think her portrayal of Rey is spot on. She’s very expressive in terms of body cues and facial expressions.
The only “crack” I saw was the whole “reach out and feel the Force” thing with Luke, when he was brushing her hands with the busy or tree branch or whatever while her eyes were closed. It seemed pretty obvious to me that she may have felt that whole scene was just bit ridiculous.
Nitpick: The salt is the white crust on the surface of the planet. The red is dirt beneath the salt.
I don’t think the movie implies that at all. The red color first appears when some guy walks on the white stuff (I’m presuming snow) and leaves red foot prints that look like blood but are not. Some other guy licks the red stuff and says “salt.”
One question is have is what is the relationship between Poe and Leia? He seems more familiar with her than a regular junior officer with a General-in-Chief. In fact the whole dynamic seems more like an aunt and a nephew. If he had been a senior officer like a Colonel or a Brigadier or a Commodore it would make more sense.
Ask Hotzendorf, Varus, McClellan, Nivelle & Haig, Santa Anna, et alii how it works.
I’m pretty sure he picked the white stuff, and the footprints appear because the salt is sticking to his boots after he walks up (like snow does, leaving dirt footprints if it’s thin).
Yes, but then there’s a chase scene with the Millenium Falcon through red crystalline caverns–implying that the red stuff is salt, too.
My fanwank is that the red is a pigment that’s easily degraded in sunlight. So the surface turns white, leaving the red protected below. Disturbing the crust exposes the red, which will fade back to white after a few weeks. That’s why it looked pristine in the first place even though it must get disturbed from time to time by animals or weather.
He’s the Best Pilot in the Resistance, so it makes sense that the leader of the Resistance would know who he is. It’s perfectly plausible that he was one of the early recruits in the Resistance and got to know Leia personally when it was still small, especially when he was going on special missions for her, like the opening of TFA. He’s still a pilot because he’s the best pilot, and really, really likes blowing things up.
And we have no idea how high up he actually is - he started the movie as a Commander, and got demoted to Captain, so the rank hierarchy doesn’t follow any existing military. For all we know he was only one or two ranks down from Vice Admiral Holdo before his demotion.
A few thoughts after my viewing this weekend. Too lazy to go through the entire thread, so sorry if these have already been mentioned:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Luke mentioned that, when he decided to train Ben, he also took on “a dozen” students. Then, when Ben left, he took most of them with him. Does that mean that there are still a few mostly-trained Jedi out there, somewhere? If not, I hope those books have instructions on how to make lightsabers, because the galaxy is running dangerously low on them.
The biggest out-of-the-blue thing for me: the metal dice on the Falcon. Made me smile. Again, correct me if I’m wrong, but we’ve only seen those dice once, back in '77, when Chewie hit his head on 'em the first time we saw the Falcon’s cockpit, and then never again.
Poor Luke. He’s had so many failures, from breaking off his training with Yoda to run to Bespin and save people who didn’t need saving, to screwing up Ben’s training. I’m glad he had a final sendoff on his terms.
I very much liked that they took moments we expected to have great gravity and just went “pfft, whatevs.” We expected Rey to hand Luke his lightsaber, and he would take it gravely and start a serious conversation. Nope, over the shoulder with it, walk away. Ha! Or Hux ranting about the destruction of the Rebellion, and hearing back, “Sorry, I’m holding for Hux?” Snort. The reveal of Rey’s parents felt like that. We’ve been agonizing over it for two years, then, nope, nobody important. Double ha!
I also think it’s funny that the strongest (deserved, I’d say) criticisms for The Force Awakens were that it was very derivative of A New Hope, and then, The Last Jedi concludes with a scene very derivative of the Battle of Hoth from The Empire Strikes Back, down to the AT-ATs, the speeders, and the white stuff on the ground. Where’s Wedge when you need him.
Biggest criticism: the whole trip to Casino Planet with Finn and Rose feels pointless in retrospect, and it takes up a huge chunk of screen time. Yeah, I like the characters, but man, nothing they did made a difference.
Biggest concern: they appear to be building toward Ben and Rey being a couple, and they’re laying the foundation for that with little moments like the “can you put on a cloak or something” scene and touching fingers and near-kisses and sexual tension and whatnot. This, I do not care for. Rey needs to find her own path, she don’t need no man right now, maybe not ever.
Overall, I dug it muchly. By the way, why did Snoke make himself so huge in holograms? Napoleon complex? It’s not like he was short IRL or anything.
Too late to edit - according to Wookiepedia, a Commander is only 2 steps down from a General or Admiral.
Absolutely wrong, as can be assessed by watching any of her pre-prequels roles. The fault for her poor performance in the prequels lies 100% of the shoulders of the shitty director
People complaining about Rose stopping Finn from suicide bombing the cannon are missing the point. Yes tactically it was a bad choice–the needs of the many etc. etc.–but it was a very human choice. She’d seen one person she loved sacrifice herself for the cause and she couldn’t deal with it a second time. One of the things I liked about this flick was how it was full of people making flawed choices out of all to human motives.
Plus, she used to married to someone just like him, so she indulges him.
Yup. Ewan Mcgregor, Liam Neeson, and Natalie Portman all chewed up the scenery with the horrible dialog that was given to them while working in front of green screens.
It seems like they teased that a lot in the first part of the movie, and I was a bit worried about it. But I’m pretty convinced now that those moments were deliberate trolling of the Rey-Kylo shippers (of whom there do seem to be more than a few).
In the end, despite all the seeming connections between them, despite his killing Snoke to save her life, despite their fighting together against Snoke’s guards, that doesn’t redeem him in Rey’s eyes. He’s still willing to let the Resistance fleet get slaughtered. He still wants to rule the galaxy. He’s still an unrepentant murderer, and Rey ultimately wants no part of him.
The final scene between them, Rey closing the Falcon’s door in Kylo’s face, seems to symbolize that she’s done trying to find anything redeemable in him.
So you think that we’re supposed to watch the scene and come away thinking “the filmmakers believe Rose made the wrong choice here”? Because the way it all flows certainly feels like Rose’s actions are being celebrated.
Just saw it today and I really liked it. It was great watching a movie where I honestly didn’t know what was going to happen next. I’m not putting it into Game of Thrones territory, but I kinda see this movie as a “anyone can die at any time” type of one. With Snoke it seems like I was right. I certainly hope they don’t kill Poe, I freaking love him.
I was a huge fan of cranky Luke and an even hugerer fan of Mark Hamill. For not doing traditional acting very much, he was phenomenal in this movie.
I’m not breaking any new territory when I saw I didn’t like the Vegas Planet and think that scene went way, WAY too long. I also didn’t like the ham-fisted “romance” between the new girl and Finn, but cool for the movie to have an Asian girl and black guy kiss.
I would love to see it again if the opportunity presents itself.
Too late to edit:
Here’s something I absolutely HATED: Freaking Super-Leia. Not only is it completely unbelievable that she apparently can make a force bubble to protect her, but also that she literally flew through space like she was damn superman.
Really quickly to add to my not likes: The humor. I thought it was very often forced and not very funny.
Here are two reviews that sum up my feelings for the movie very well, in that I loved it, aside from small flaws that will probably not matter to me after rewatching a few times.
TV reviewer: Alan Sepinwall - try to ignore his obsession with The Leftovers.
Author: Chuck Wendig