I liked it, but I also need to process.
Some good lines: Where are from? Nowhere. Nobody is nowhere. Jakku. Ok, that is basically nowhere.
I know what you are going to say – yes I changed my hair
Am I correct that Luke only gave 2 out of 3 lessons to Rey? Will he give the third as a force ghost?
The one spoiler I heard was Luke dying, so not a big shock to me. Glad Yoda came back.
How did Rey get on the planet? was she on the shuttle? I may have missed that.
How may folks do they have “scattered throughout the galaxy”? (Lando anyone?)
So it is 5 months before Solo and then 19 for episode IX?
She was on the Millennium Falcon, which she got to by stealing Snoke’s private ship. Finn, his new squeeze & the bot were the only ones on the shuttle.
The mutiny would have been completely prevented if she’d simply answered “yes” when Poe asked if she had a plan. And why put ALL your eggs in one poorly-thought-out unlikely-to-work scenario, when you can hedge your bets by using two of those plans?
One logic bomb for the next movie: if your entire resistance movement fits on the Falcon (military gear included!), you are done. There’s either going to be a massive handwave, a timejump, or one very clever writer.
They were supposed to have a bunch of allies come to the rescue after sending out the distress signal. They didn’t come–why? Have they abandoned the resistance? Was the signal intercepted (they mentioned that it was received, but that could be spoofed)? Did they decide that this wasn’t the best time for a last stand? Were they just otherwise occupied?
Also, given the kid with Force powers at the end, maybe there will be a significant time jump.
I just got back from the theater. I dozed off somewhere around the time Finn and Friends were in the casino, got woken by my girlfriend just as Benicio del Toro was breaking everybody out of jail. I have no idea how many minutes had passed. I gather it doesn’t matter in the least.
When they were on Hoth II, the Falcon at one point flew through the battlefield and all the TIE fighters took off after it. Afterward, the Falcon appears near the big ditch to rescue everybody (by now, their number conveniently cut down to a manageable size), but all the TIEs are gone. I have to admit wondering about that a bit.
Also, couldn’t the big ship move between the bad guys and the transports, to shield them, at least long enough for them to get to the planet?
Presumably she wanted as few people to know as possible, just in case someone got captured and spilled the beans in exchange for a crateful of gold or something.
I’m guessing that at that point, it’s really been less than a week since Starkiller Base went online. The government of the Republic has been decapitated and the First Order is making a major push to conquer the Core Worlds. It’s likely that the Resistance’s allies have either already been defeated or otherwise have problems of their own.
I liked lots of stuf, Luke coming back, the island, the throne room.
But
Who the fuck is Snoke? The rise and fall of the previous emperor was the subject of 6 movies. Snoke is just there, until he isn’t.
Hugs? What the fuck? An organization easily surpassing the Empire in visual firepower and their top general is a buffoon? How does that work?
The casino planet: ok, some guys got rich selling weapons, but in previous episodes it was already well established who made the empire/republics weapons. The scene where there were plans of every weapon system in the universe lying around in a shuttle was… Dumb.
Did the whole planet get rich selling weapons or just the owner of the stolen shuttle?
The guy who effortlessly hacks your security systems sells out a couple of rebels and then you let him go? Dumb, lazy writing.
If you can fly into the enemy’s ships (the flagship no less) at will you can easily destroy them, not just disable some gismo. Again lazy.
A small fleet of bombers and fighters destroy a dreadnought? How is that not a unqualified win? You are killing thousands for every pilot.
The light speed ramming would makes capital ships obsolete in a universe awash with droids: lazy writing.
There is all sorts of stuff going on that are all complete game changers and it gets used to resolve some minor plot turn. Blowing every bit of internal consistency to hell.
Because its fucking Star Wars. Everyone knows, is related to, went to a school with or once had drinks with everyone else. It’ll be like one of the “from a certain point of view” things, like her parents did sell her for drinks, but it was a coverup, tomprotect her. The conincidentally got killed later. And now that JJ is back, hell consdering the actresses looks, I won’t be surprised if they retcon her to be be Vader and Padme’s daughter; concieved from frozen eggs and sperm and delivered by a surrogate/artificial womb.
I mean JJ loves to go headfirst into the “popular” version of things. In Star Trek, Kirk was a brooding hardass, who only occassionally had dalliances. In JJ’s presentation he became crazed horndog.
I thought the Bomber on which Rose’s sister died, well the interior setup looked exactly like a Lancaster bomber. Half expected her to shout, “Messerschmitts”!
According to Wookieepedia, Hux’s father was commandant of the Imperial Academy and one of the founders of the First Order’s military, and he pretty much wound up in charge via nepotism.
Those six movies didn’t all appear at once, fully formed. For 25 years all we knew of Palpatine was from Return of the Jedi where first he was there, then he wasn’t. We weren’t even sure of his name, as it had only been mentioned in the prologue of the very first novel adaptation, so we weren’t certain of its canonical level for a long time. There’s time to find out more about Snoke.
Though it might be hard to cram it gracefully into Episode IX, so there are still the Anthology movies that will take place at different times, each with a different focus. It’s possible, for example, the rumoured Kenobi movie might illuminate Snoke’s origins somewhat. Failing that there are novels or comics, if they think there’s a story worth telling.
Hux is a buffoon, but he’s also dedicated and might be a good administrator and bureaucrat behind the scenes. I enjoyed his character’s patheticness, and having known senior military officers (although not flag-level officers) that were truly weirdoes on a social level, I thought it wasn’t particularly out there.
The solution here could not have been more obviously telegraphed:
The existence of the Resistance is ensured as long as some part of it exists; the “spark” analogy
The Resistance has many allies throughout the galaxy who may not have shown up to fight but could be emboldened by the Resistance being seemingly unkillable
Lots and lots of people are more than happy to sell weapons to both sides to make a buck
All you need is a rich donor to lend/donate the moolah to buy a half dozen X-wings and boom, you’re back in business. With a handful of starfighters you can jump into a poorly defended system, blow up some lightly defended base or old bulk cruiser, and jump out, and look, the Resistance won a battle! Recruits and money flood in, you attack some other lightly defended bumpkin system, and the next thing you know you’re a force to be reckoned with.
No, it was not. No mention is made in any previous movie as to where all the weapons are coming from. The Star Wars mythology about entities like Incom (maker of the X-wing) and Sienar Fleet Systems (make of the TIE fighter) are all in the extended universe, not in the movies.
People tend to read in to the movies things that aren’t there because they recall them from books, games, action figures and the like.
Yes, R2D2 was flying around a weapons factory of some kind (decades before the events of “The Last Jedi.”) Who owned it? What was the name of the company that owned the factory? Who paid the bills?
We saw a “designer” of the Death Star in Rogue One. Who built it? Who paid for it? Was it all built by one company? Many companies? Were they private companies? You don’t know the answers to any of those questions, because it simply wasn’t explained, and so nothing in “The Last Jedi” was inconsistent with those scenes.
