I rewatched 7 & 8 to get ready for 9, and I could be less critical the second time. F’rinstance, I hated the casino planet first time 'round. I think the slickness (and unnecessary-ness) reminded me of the prequels.
But having already been surprised by it, then disappointed by it, and having condemned it, the second time I could just watch it and notice little interesting touches.
I’m sure I’d be the same with Number Nine. One more reason to take the wife asap (she didn’t want to go to the UltraHumungoScreen 3D Thursday midnight show).
I don’t think this has been mentioned yet–remember the Simpsons episode where they were making a Radioactive Man movie and had to finish production using old footage? I think the Leia scenes were for the most part done about as smoothly as that.
I agree - her scenes were painful. Every time she was onscreen, I found myself thinking either “Huh… I wonder where that line of dialog was originally supposed to be” or “Body double!”
Shoehorning her into the story was a wrongheaded decision in a movie full of them.
This is a problem I have with almost every new movie now a days. Too much jerkiness, I can never tell what the hell is going on in any fight.
Over all I liked the movie. It’s not perfect, but it IS a Star Wars movie after all.
There were a couple of things that I found to be off. They shouldn’t have given a strict time when the fleet was going to be moving. They could have just said, the fleet is getting ready to move, we need to go NOW! Instead they said, we have 16 hours to do all this.
All those ships at the end, they should have had them slowly show up a few at a time. Maybe have Poe’s friend show up, and then a couple of others, and then shown all the rest of them. We knew they were coming and it would have been better then, hey we’re all gonna die here, oh wait, a million others all show up at once.
I haven’t read the thread yet but saw it last night and wow was it disappointing. First they basically under cut everything TLJ tries to do: instead of saying you know the Force belongs to everyone and the Jedi may have been a mistake, we are back to lineages and destinies. The Jedi and the Sith (with the Sith not being mentioned by name at all in this trilogy before now). Also they Poochied Rose back to her Home Planet and gave Finn a new girlfriend. TLJ has flaws but they undid the best things about it.
Then, they could have done anything they wanted with Poe but they made him into Han Solo lite. “Did I ever mention I was also a smuggler?”
The plot feels like it was a DM’s first campaign adventure for an RPG. Go here, get this thing, this gives you a clue to the next place to get that thing and keep going until you find the Boss Monster. We even had Jedis become Clerics complete with a Cure Light Wounds spell.
Kylo’s turn to the good seemed fast and forced.
It was a little simultaneously creepy and goofy how much they used Zombie Leia. And having the opening crawl start with “The Dead Speak!” was bad form.
Couldn’t they have shown Nabbo somewhere? It was Palpatine’s home world after all.
It wasn’t all bad. I liked the space fights, a return to Endor, the Cameo voices in Rey’s head, Lando was great, the shot of all the ships that came to fight (even if it made little sense given the previous movie). But this was the worst Star Wars film since Attack of the Clones.
I saw a joke image of the opening credit saying “Written and Directed by Reddit” and that seem more accurate than not.
According to Wookieepedia, the moon that the Death Star II wreckage was on was Kef Bir (Kef Bir | Wookieepedia | Fandom) which is a different moon than the Forest moon with Ewoks.
Nah, they didn’t need him. Their main issue is that they were impatient. They were determined to get Episode VII in theaters by 2015. Because of that, they did not sit down and write out a story plan for all three movies. They got that one written, made zero plan for Episodes VIII or IX, and then made those up as they went.
When Rian Johnson began prep work on Episode VIII, he was asked what kind of guidance or requirements he was given from Disney. He said they told him nothing and said there he could make up whatever he wanted. They had to approve his script, but they did and he made the movie with huge creative freedom.
When it was out, he was asked what he think will happen with Episode IX and he honestly answered, “I have no idea. I am not involved in that movie at all.”
I was surprised they did not hire JJ Abrams to make all three and pay Lawrence Kasdan to write all three. Film them concurrently and release them 2017-2019(one per year).
Lord of the Rings, style. Cheaper, cohesive vision, clear storyline through three movies.
My head canon won’t allow ‘clone’…there’s enough crappy tropes. I like the second one…his spirit lived and acolytes returned it to his badly damaged body.
At the end, Lando asked Jannah, the woman who Finn met on Kef Bir, where she was from and she said, “I don’t know.” He replied, “Let’s find out.” So was that intended to set up the next movie, or at least a TV show?
Because the obvious (to me) subject for a followup would be rebuilding the Jedi knights.
And another thing I noticed was that someone gave Chewbacca a medal. I assume that was because in the first film, he didn’t get one while Han and Luke did.
Possibly. There was a cut sub plot where it turns out she’s Lando’s daughter.
Yes, Leia was carrying it around right before she died. Maz took it and gave it to him. A terrible injustice righted.
Looking at the generally negative impressions here, I wonder if the kind of audience at a given screening makes a difference. The crowd at my theater was clapping, shouting, laughing and generally deeply into it. And I came out of the theater not thinking that I had seen some visionary masterpiece, but still I had a really fun time. And as that’s what I went in hoping for and expecting; I was not dissatisfied in the least.
