Stargirl

What I really like about the show was that it managed to avoid the standard tropes. Good guys died or suffered serious losses. Bad guys had idealistic goals. The dead stayed dead.

It was also a lot of fun.

Its always tricky to find the right way to apply one’s parents’ lessons to your own life.

An almost perfect ending to an almost perfect season. You could tell that Geoff Johns poured his heart and soul into this.

Brainwave had me going for a moment, but that’s probably because I really wanted Henry to come back. Shows how well-written Henry’s character development was. Solomon Grundy’s CGI was a bit wonky; there’s only so much you can do on a TV budget.

Let’s see: Icicle, Dragon King, and Brainwave are dead, as is the Fiddler. The Wizard was killed off early on, together with his entire family. Sportsmaster and Tigress are still alive, and they’re probably going to train Artemis. The Gambler and Solomon Grundy are alive. The Shade finally made an appearance; he apparently wanted no part in Icicle’s American Dream. Shiv is still around and dug up Eclipso (?) so we know she’s going to come after Courtney.

They left all the strings of parents/kids hanging in a very awkward place. What’s going on with Beth & her parents (have they noticed that she’s changed?) and Yolanda & her parents (is she ungrounded now?) and Rick and his uncle (admittedly, there’s probably very little story there)? Tuba-kid is an orphan now. Is he in town or? So is Icicle’s kid. And did Tigress & Sportsmaster die or just get knocked out? What about them and their kid? I was less than satisfied with the ending.

Also, it was confusing as to whether or not Brainwave needed to be in Cerebro.* And what is Solomon Grundy’s deal, anyway?

Still - “I’m here to save my wife… with our daughter” was a good line. And I still want the music supervisor to make me a mix tape.

That’s okay–her character was too much like The Folker anyway.

I enjoyed the episode, although apparently not as much as Terminus_Est.

Best line for me was, “I have five minutes left. And it’s all for you.”

I also really liked Wildcat’s and Hourman’s interaction over killing and what each did when the moment came. Well done character work. Except…

In an earlier episode, Wildcat and Stargirl each killed a dozen or so of Dragon King’s henchmen. And didn’t seem at all hesitant about it or fazed by it afterwards. So…

Also, although I liked the Brainwave/Wildcat scene in and of itself, it didn’t really make sense in the larger context. So, Brainwave can just leave the machine and they play the transmission on a loop? Why is he even in the machine at all after they record the initial transmission? Why didn’t they just record and use the original test transmission? And why did he go to all of the bother of the telepathic illusion when he could have just, you know, read Wildcat’s mind to get the information? Up to that point, he wasn’t written as enjoying playing mind games - he seemed to be brutally direct in every other interaction he had, with everyone, friend or foe.

Also, at this point we’re apparently never going to get any resolution on that weird Norwegian prayer Icicle and his parents did at the family dinner. I guess maybe there’s nothing deeper there, it’s just that his whole family is psycho.

Also, we get the weirdness of what the general public knows about the existence and activities of supers. Apparently, “They” covered up the events of this whole season with a cover story about an earthquake and a malfunctioning satellite. So, do people in general or the government know about supers or not?

Those are relatively minor quibbles, though. I enjoyed this whole season.

Easter Egg: the movie marquee in this episode listed “The Haunted Tank”, another DC weird war comic book. Apparently weird war movies based on comic books rule Earth-2’s box office.

  1. So who dealt with all the bodies down in the tunnels? Best guess: the Cosmic Staff.

  2. Presumably Cameron (Icicle’s son, who I think may have his powers) will live with his grandparents who wanted him to know about his heritage anyway. So that shoe’s about to drop.

  3. And speaking of dropping shoes, I wasn’t expecting Sylvester Pemberton to come back, assuming it’s actually him and not a shape shifter. I would’ve thought that Pat had buried him.

  4. Wonder how they’re going to fix the goggles. Is “Chuck” in the Cloud somehow?

I always assumed that the goggles were just an Input/Output device for Chuck, and that “he” was either distributed in “the Cloud” or in a physical super-computer somewhere. Even after they were smashed, we didn’t see any sign of any electronics in the goggles themselves.

The alternative would mean that the original Dr. Mid-Nite not only created a revolutionary true AI, he also turned a bit of leather and a couple of small pieces of glass into a computational medium with greater processing power than a super-computer. Which, yeah, comic book tech and all of that, but still…

And if I remember correctly, when Beth first went down into the tunnels she lost contact with Chuck, which seems like a pretty definitive indication that Chuck isn’t “in” the goggles. It really confused me that Beth (and everyone else) seemed to think that Chuck was actually in the goggles somehow.

Yeah, but even if (as is likely now that you pointed it out) the actual AI is elsewhere, the tech to connect the AI to a pair of goggles is probably going to be hard to recreate also. Although maybe Beth can source some Google Glasses from someplace - that should at least be a starting point, although she’ll still need to find the IP address somewhere.

Solomon Grundy,
Born on a Monday,
Christened on Tuesday,
Married on Wednesday,
Took ill on Thursday,
Grew worse on Friday,
Died on Saturday,
Buried on Sunday,
That was the end,
Of Solomon Grundy

Grundy isnt evil, just a angry revenant. Kinda like the Hulk but without any Good. Easily led into evil.

The bodies were taken care of in the same manner that Brainwave’s lawyer was. If you recall, Junior was visiting Senior in the hospital when the lawyer came by. Junior didn’t like what he was saying and lashed out with his mind, killing him. Then Senior woke up and we never heard about the lawyer again.

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The bodies were taken care of in the same manner that Brainwave’s lawyer was. If you recall, Junior was visiting Senior in the hospital when the lawyer came by. Junior didn’t like what he was saying and lashed out with his mind, killing him. Then Senior woke up and we never heard about the lawyer again.
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Well, it’s pretty easy to see what happened to the lawyer - the hospital has people who deal with dead bodies all the time (and since mental attacks apparently leave no wounds, any investigation of the death won’t involve either Brainwave). The bodies in the lair will rot untended unless someone bothers to clean them up - and it would be interesting to know who’s going to do that (maybe Shade?)

Apparently season 2 will premier on CW on Tuesday August 10th.

Huh. I thought it was moving exclusively to HBO Max. Is it going to air on CW and stream on HBO Max, as the first season did with the CW and DC Universe?

season 2 of DC’s Stargirl will exclusively be on The CW. Fans will be able to watch new episodes on the network on Tuesdays at 8 p.m. EST. And for those looking to stream, episodes will be available the next day via The CW app and website.

From the Cheatsheet.

I guess nobody else watched the movie…

Thanks. I got that backwards - Season 2 will be exclusive to the CW (at least for the first run - apparently episodes will also be available on HBO Max after the season ends).

Movie?

Read the OP.

Oh. It’s been a few months since I was at the top of the thread).