State some controversial beliefs that you have.

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I’ll join you in hell. I’ve always felt that it’s a terrible waste to expend money and effort on researching and developing expensive and difficult fertility treatment that often ultimately fails, when so many children who have already been born need homes. Imagine if all that effort were applied toward promoting and facilitating adoption.

(Having said that, I will also say that I do have friends who have had fertility problems and gone the treatment route, and I have been outwardly supportive to them and kept my opinion to myself, because I do know what a sensitive issue it is.)

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Some more :

If I’m wrong, and God does exist, he should be killed. Call it pro-active atheism.

Religion is a form of insanity.

I believe that malice is a common human motivation.

I approve of a single payer national health care system.

Creationism is stupid and ignorant.

I oppose patriotism, save in self defense. Such as resistance fighters killing invaders.

I have no problem with cloning, including the “brainless clone” scenario. For that matter, I’d have no moral problem with someone who wants to have brainless clones grown for food, or to have a remote control/puppetmaster device installed and use them as ( mindless ) sex toys. Creepy, yes, immoral, no.

As long as they use precautions, I have no problem with teens having all the sex they like.

I believe that bisexuality is superior to both homosexuality and heterosexuality. And no, I’m not bi, unfortunately.

I think that all else being equal, smart people are superior to people of average or less intelligence.

I believe that as groups, men really are better at some jobs, and women are better at others; I also believe that traditional gender roles have little to do with this, one way or the other. Men, for example, being bigger, stronger and heavier, are from a practical standpoint going to be better at such tasks as scrubbing things clean, beating rugs, grinding grain by hand in mortars and pestles, and quite a few traditionally female jobs. They also really are better designed for most military jobs. Women, on the other hand appear to be just as good ( or not ) at running governments and smaller organizations as any man.

We should have bombed the Vatican to gravel in retaliation for the coverup of pedophile priests. Then bombed any attempt to rebuild it.

I have no moral problems with genetically engineering humans as such, only with certain kinds of alterations, like creating “born slaves”. I’d have no moral problems with adding extra working arms, say, or increased intelligence or new senses ( the public reation to such things is a practical problem, not a moral one; not directly, at least ).

I would consider a human level AI, or an “uplifted” animal to be the equal of a human.

I believe that the President is probably insane.

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Wanted to add a few more:

I believe that the idea of AI is an abomination. I do not think it probable that creating an AI is possible, but believe the risk is serious enough that no research should be done towards that end. I believe that if any research towards the creation of true AI appears to be nearing its goal, or if AI is actually created, it is a moral necessity to stop and destroy it by any means possible, up to and including violence. I think that if research towards AI does start being successful, this view will become much more common.

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(Even though I’m educated and liberal and understand influence of society, family and culture)

I believe that people who believe in a god or gods are somewhat weak of mind
ditto people who believe that a month old fetus is a person

That although I don’t believe in their methods and use of hatred or a hierarchical understanding of race, in a way white supremists have a point - if we don’t protect the white race, it will disappear eventually and that this is not that so different from what indigenous peoples are afraid of happening to their own races

I believe that having children is not a right and would love a way of sterilising everyone who would then have to earn the right, pass some sort of test to have children and be de-sterilised

I believe that many Americans are deluded by thinking they are the free world when in fact they are more controlled in many ways than most other western countries

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I believe that the reason we have so many Christian denominations and conflicting beliefs about what Jesus stood for is that people tend to read too much into Christ’s teachings.

Jesus was a Jew who fancied himself a messiah near the end of his life. He made some vague statements about the afterlife and his place in it. He preached both brotherly love and war. Ultimately, his words and actions got him crucified at 33. Some time later, Saul of Tarsus (who, IMHO, was kind of a whackjob, even by that period’s standards) converted to his own peculiar brand of Christianity and preached Jesus’s teachings without ever having met him, and it’s Paul’s influence that guides most churches and believers to this day.

Jesus himself never seemed to carry a real political mantle, and he never got the chance to flesh out his own beliefs, let alone the tenets of a full-fledged theology. In fact, I get the feeling he was pretty confused and conflicted about his own beliefs, right up until his moment of death on the cross.

He thought he was going to be ressurected in his apostle’s lifetime, and the concept of a world 2,000 years after his life and death seemed not to have made a big impact on his beliefs. He probably could have cared less about pacifist theology, prosperity theology, inspirational theology, Christian mysticism, or pentacostal preaching.

I believe that the above is at the center of most conflicts among Christians today.

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I believe that all heterosexual marriages in the U.S. should be null and void until Gay marriage is legal.

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I believe that infertile people have no more responsibility to adopt children than the fertile who keep popping them out. I’m sick and tired of hearing how infertile people have some kind of moral obligation to take care of the problem of kids needing homes. Imagine if every fertile person chose to adopt one of the kids they wanted instead of “wasting money and effort” (childbirth and prenatal care aren’t free either) making their own.

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Been reading Neil Gaiman again, have we? :slight_smile:

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Oh, and one of my own:

I get really nervous when people believe that we should discriminate against others based on nebulous qualities like “intelligence” and “believing the right things,” and can’t help thinking that those who think that way are… like DerTrihs. (And by that I mean nihilist! What did you think I meant? :))

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I believe that the American middle and upper class give the poor too much credit for their bad habits and decisions. Lower class citizens rack up massive credit card debt, breed like drunken rabbits, and commit petty crimes because they are intellectually disadvantaged, not because they are willfully evil. There are too many rants here about the irresponsibility of the crack addicted young mothers on the train as if the CAYMs have any concept of societal mores or humanity in general. They aren’t manipulative- they are stupid. I’m not saying that disgust with irresponsible acts is inappropriate, but I am saying that impotent rants against the lower class are useless. You want people to change? *Help them. *

I believe that technology has insulated our youth from the facts of ecology and survival. Agriculture, including the animal product industry and the import of foreign foods should be mandatory curriculum in elementary school. We all need to know the expense, the environmental impact and health hazards of how *every single * food product ends up on our plate.

I believe that power, money, and pornography can be useful, helpful and entertaining when used by informed people. I believe that all three can become hopelessly perverted when used by selfish people.

I believe that every pro-lifer should walk the walk and adopt an unwanted child. As a social worker who is responsible for placement of unwanted teens, I can vouch that pro- lifers are giving lip service to a cause they have no intentions of espousing.

I believe that enormous amounts of energy are wasted on religious pursuits, up to and including arguments against science, arguments against education, censorship, and the global and individual attempt to bully every human being with belief in One God.

I believe that all people are inherently kind when left to their own devices, and that empathy is built in and the ability to improve this earth lies within the individual and not a committee.

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I don’t think I’m so special that I should breed.

I think that people that complain about their particular socio-economic/whatever group not getting into universities/political office/whatever enough need to work on problems in their communities that cause this as much as to lobby for change in the system.

I think that universal health care should be a fundamental human right.

I think the religious right needs to stay the fuck out of my uterus.

I think that factual, in-depth sex education needs to be mandatory, starting in the fifth grade. Preferably it should be taught by a doctor (hey, I got lucky here).

I think our country (U.S.) is nearing its end, unless we do something to fix it. I also think that our particular system would benefit from the occasional revolution. And it’s high time.

I’m not religious, but I think that those categorizing anyone with religious beliefs as ignorant/stupid/whatever out of hand are really the ignorant ones.

I want my guns. I need my guns. You know why I support the Second Amendment? To defend the First, by force if I must.

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Heh, well spotted! It took me a second to get it. Mrs. Fresh is the Sandman fan, not me.

I totally agree with everything you said except for the last point, and except for selfish use of pornography being a bad thing.

What, are we going to figure out how to use pornography to save the world or something? :stuck_out_tongue:

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Oh yeah, almost forgot:

Reading this, I believe that Der Trihs couldn’t get a date with a self-respecting Real Doll.
Prick :rolleyes:

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I believe that leading a godly life consist of making as much money as possible, and spending it in the most enjoyable ways possible with the people you love.

I also believe everything in The Bell Curve.

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  1. I believe that ballots should not be secret. It should be public record who you voted for!

  2. The 8th Amendment should be rewritten to allow cruel and unusual punishment for certain offenses.

  3. Minimum speeds on the highway should be AT LEAST 80 mph, and slowpokes would be subject to belief #2.

  4. I believe I’ll have another beer. Good night folks.:wink:

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I believe that foxhunting is not “evil” and believe the ignoramuses who spent time & energy attempting to eradicate it are the sad people who need some sort of cause to give meaning to their lives, as well as believing that they have some moral superiority deeming them worthy of preaching to others why Their way is the best way. Tryanny of the uninformed majority.

I am pro choice, and having worked as a student in an abortion clinic, realize that abolishing abortion would result not in no abortions, but in scores of botched, life threatening abortions. Nurses from the 50’s and 60’s often recounted tales of “coathangers in unteruses” There are 5-6 clinics in my large city. 15-40 abortions (at Each clinic)/day/6 days a week! Do the math!

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I believe alien robots are borrowing my luggage at night but returning it just before I wake up.

This may not be that controversial …every time I try to converse about it some says STFU.

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Oh! I’ve got another one!! I don’t agree with everything on this list, but I really really like Der Trihs. That’s pretty controversial on here, I know. :slight_smile:

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Do you believe its someone’s right to have their bills paid by someone else?

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Well, in my nonexistant ideal world, every lock has a key. Ya know what I mean?

(And if you don’t, I mean that for every perversion there is a pervert to fill it. Pornography could serve a higher purpose if only to provide an outlet for the peculiar. Maybe we should go into the kink matchmaking business: You like toes? Meet the amazing Polydactyl Lady. You like Mustard Smeared Fingers? Have we got a clutzy hotdog vendor for you. Ya know, that kind of thing.)