Did Jesus pray in public?
Might have talked to his dad.
I didn’t notice that the image above, ‘Jesus’ is holding a shotgun. Ooookkkaaay.
That’s why…
“Ain’t no mixup a shotgun can’t fix up!”
“You’ll notice I’m not throwing the first stone…”
Reinforced group indoctrination with a side of brainwashing and conditioning.
The meek shall inherit the earth–on my personal game preserve!!!
I think there could be a whole social media account of American Jesus proverbs.
I suppose that any time he talked to himself, he was essentially praying, since he’s also God, or something like that. I never really understood quantum religioustics, especially not God/man/spirit triality.
Haven’t read the thread. Two points:
- They’re trying to get a toehold for their little Caliphates in increasing numbers in Oklahoma, Texas, and other areas where Christian Fundamentalists are taking control of school boards. Teaching kids how to critically evaluate information and ask good questions IS inherently and inarguably better than teaching them to be dogmatic, ideological, and cognitively rigid. It’s just that … what I’m describing as the “better” path is what the RW called “liberal indoctrination.” As always, projection;
- I think the last handful of years proved something to us: faith – the belief in things for which there simply is no evidence – is NOT benign. It can be extremely harmful. It can tear a country apart. It can pave the way for an Authoritarian Head of State.
Shouldn’t he be holding an automatic rifle - the preferred weapon of school shooters?
I think Sunday is shotgun day, Saturday is AR day.
Though it’s a bit fuzzy… I’m a Christian but I guess not a real True-Blood American Christian since none of my beliefs about Jesus involve assault weapons. Or persecuting LGBTQ+ folks.
I can think of at least ten that are a lot clearer. If “never pray in public” was the point, there’d probably be a “thou shall not” in there.
That’s part of it, but it’s mostly about taking everything the Bible says at face value, and not performing any sort of analysis that takes history, context, or language into consideration. In other words, exactly what you’re doing here.
Jesus was pretty consistent on the idea that it’s not the form of the prayer that matters, it’s intent. That’s the whole point of Mathew 6:6 - interpreting it so that any prayer not made in a literal closet “doesn’t count” is exactly the sort of nitpicking literalism that he regularly preached against.
As an atheist, it’s incredible frustrating listening to other atheists try to debate the Bible, because y’all’s brains fall right of your head when you try to do it. Mathew 6:6 is two sentences, out of a book that is hundreds and hundreds of pages long, and you’re acting like that’s the only thing the entire book has to say on the subject of prayer.
I’m sure you’re right – as Flanders mentioned, he even follows the stuff that conflicts with the other stuff. All that said, I’m pretty sure that Jesus would be against the sort of ostentatious and coercive prayer that the coach was doing, given the context of that passage and other passages attributed to Jesus.
Anyway, this is all pretty much off topic as to whether Jesus would want students be forced to listen to Supernintendo Walters praying and attacking political enemies. My guess is that Jesus would frown upon that sort of praying, too.
Sure, I don’t disagree, but there’s a difference between condemning what this guy did, and “Prayers can only ever be privately made, or they aren’t prayers.”
That’s fine by me.
To quote the Big Lebowski: You said it, man. Nobody fucks with the Jesus.
Catholics like a few, put probably this:
My bible knowledge is very old now, I’ve not opened one for years - and even then it was because I had run out of novels to read in the long boring time between “finish math homework” and “go to bed” times.
I think you are right though. I am pretty sure Jesus and Dad chatted when they were alone, the rest of the time Jesus was telling people what a great dad he had (possibly not his actual words)
In other words, proof, PROOF! that the son and holy father, plus holy sprit are the same person/enigma/specter.
Q.E.D.
Yeah, maybe so. I was surrounded by these cult members and they all seemed to try to be the loudest in the group. It was freaky as shit.
It wasn’t any silent prayer, that’s for sure.
Oh, oh, the APOSTLES’ Creed.