True, the sales go to help train and employ the disabled. Anyone can shop at the stores, you need not be poor or disabled to go there. :rolleyes:
Has the OP considered that maybe the ‘looters’ had permission to go through the material? Is it possible they were volunteers themselves and were sorting the goods or possibly taking the good stuff out to clean it up (launder clothing, wash appliances, etc.) so it could be resold? What are the odds that a bunch of people show up when you happen to be there to just rifle through the bins?
What did the employee say when you told them there were people outside going through the bins?
On top of which, no one is suggesting that she return five year old power strips to the company today or to get the guard fired whether or not he is homeless. The discussion has been about what should have been done at the time.
Thanks, Lisacurl. Sheesh. I merely mentioned it as an example of insisting security escort people out to prevent the theft of company property doesn’t mean it won’t happen; in our case, the security chief was the one who appropriated the company property and decided it now beloged to us. It was then suggested that we return the stuff, which at the time, frankly, wasn’t exactly a priority since we’d just lost 2/3 of our family income and we had slightly larger concerns than a $10 power strip. And since that time, bad shit has happened to the security chief, who was only trying to do something nice for someone.
You apparently lost the context of the original story, Contrapuntal. Go back and reread my sentence above that starts with “I merely,” and then go read my original post.
And this still has fuck all to do with the fact that adhemar saw people stealing from an organization that tries to actually help the poor and disabled, which is pretty damn low.
Mama (and lisa- somehow, through all of this waffeling and gyrating, you keep saying “$10 powerstrip” when your original quote (as I pointed out here) suggests that it was more than that (" a couple of really nice power strips and such" ) and somehow, that theft is insignificant. Yet the guy dumpster diving for used donated goods is somehow more of a theft than your husbands.
interesting value system you seem to have.
IMHO both were thefts. You seem to be disinclined to admit that your husband stole. (and yes, it’s still theft if the security guard gave permission. the guard lacked the authorization to make that offer and you both knew it.)
I’d say it’s an interesting value system that advocates hijacking other discussions to set yourself up as the Jiminy Cricket for fellow Dopers, but that’s just me.
And I’ll double it if you will admit that she is a hypocrite when it comes to what constitutes theft. Perhaps it was just her bad luck to make this high and mighty comment–
after telling her little story in the other thread. But to then to describe her husband’s act of theivery as the result of
is just laughable. Really. Do you really believe her husband was powerless in that situation? Do you think she would mind if me and a buddy came into her house with a box and committed a couple of spontaneous acts of misplaced generosity with something that did not belong to us? C’mon! You gotta admit that is funny, in a scary sorta Newspeak kinda way.
Well, I have to admit Contrapuntal, I shoplifted a barrette when I was in junior high, and I also stole $20 out of the till when I worked at Wendy’s in high school. I don’t think I’m morally fit to engage in debate with you. I’ll be over here, debasing myself.
My brother works as a manager at a Goodwill store, and that ain’t how it works. All donations are collected from the bins and brought into the warehouse area of each store to be sorted, repaired/cleaned if necessary, tagged and priced, and are finally put out onto the floor of the store. At no point does any employee go through donations outside of this area, or give permission to others to do so. In fact, they’re incredibly strict about when merchandise is placed on the floor.
For example, if you’re interested in buying something you saw in a donation box, you have to wait until it has gone through the full process and been placed on the floor before you can (attempt to) buy it. My brother has had to calm down several irate would-be customers who think they should be able to buy something they spotted early without it ever making it to the floor. Goodwill’s policy is that everyone should have a chance to buy their merchandise, with no early grabbers.
Anyway, yes, Goodwill works to employ the disadvantaged, not sell to them, necessarily. They get fair prices for their stuff.
Did you attempt to justify said behavior in yourself and then accuse someone else of thievery?
Well this is a strawman that both you and **Mama T **have offered. Show where I have claimed that one must be morally pure to make moral judgments.
She got busted on a hypocritical statement and instead of saying “oops” has twisted about so much she has just about screwed herself into the ground. Hope you gals enjoy it down there.
