considering it was carried aloft by rising hot air that’s not surprising. The concern is the dispersion pattern which is a little harder to deal with.
Also, radioactive water had moved down into the underground pipes beneath the plants. Prudence would dictate a comfortable distance away from the area until things have settled down.
Let’s pretend for a moment that your ominous hints at a coverup of dead has some basis in reality, instead of being a mere fear driven fantasy. So…that’s 6 soldiers plus 2 missing workers for a grand total of 8 supposed dead. Now…let’s multiply that by 10, since these are evil nuclear power company executives, and they have probably covered up a lot of missing by saying they were sent out for sushi or something. So, that would be 80.
Now, to get up to the known dead from the OTHER (minor, to be sure) aspects of this disaster you would only need to have approximately 9920 more people die. I’m sure that the evil nuclear executive types are boundless in their evil schemes, but I’m finding it a bit hard to believe that even they could cover up that many additional deaths.
In the Pit version of this thread, which I’ve pretty much given up on at this point, gonzomax made a claim that the area around the nuclear plant (by which he implies the entire evacuation zone…30 km semi-circle with the plant at it’s center) will become a nuclear wasteland akin to Chernobyl, but of course with a much larger population (this leaves aside the rather large city that was in the vicinity of Chernobyl of course, but this IS gonzo we are talking about). You seemed to agree with him that this will be the case. So, my question to you FXM is…would you like to place any large wagers that this will come to pass? How about we wager that within 3 months a significant number of people who still have houses to go back to in the area are allowed back in? That seems to be a stone cold win for you, if you actually believe your own line. So…want to bet? We could say the stakes are, if you win I will never participate in another nuclear themed thread again, after acknowledging that you (and gonzo) were right and I was wrong. If I win you will refrain from posting on this board again…no need for an acknowledgment of you being wrong is required. Of course, I’m doubtful if you’ll make the whole 3 months without getting banned, but then Le Jac and gonzo both have so maybe you will too.
I live in Japan and have been watching the news pretty much nonstop. I poked around this thread but can’t seem to find the link/cite to this bit about dead people. We’ve had no news whatsoever on any casualties from the nuclear plant aside from the 3 workers w/ the boots.
It seems like if there were truly a cover-up, they wouldn’t be putting out mistaken radiation readings like 10 million times over the limit. They thought that real and announced it, which seems contardictory to the practice of a cover-up.
they died in an industrial explosion. Do you really want to go down that road? The Bhopal explosion, The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, various coal mine disasters. Good Lord, we’ll be here for weeks listing them all. Note to engineers, vent hydrogen outdoors.
If only they had been outside the gate when the nuclear power plant blew up, then technically the plant wouldn’t have been responsible. It would have been that 100 ton piece of the plant roof falling on them.
And it wasn’t a nuclear explosion, so nuclear power is still safe. And that is the important thing in all this.
Sigh. That’s a deceptively titled article unworthy of Scientific American, which I’ve debunked both on and off this message board. I even sent a letter to the editors of Scientific American under my IRL name and professional credentials, with something like 30 citations for the letter and a two PhD co-authors, and received a bullshit response that essentially said “our journalism major knows more about coal than all you stupid engineers.” It’s a shame because they do have a valid point about the net, sum total radiation released, but they deliberately (I can only assume deliberately, since their error was pointed out to them) chose to scare-monger.
Thanks for the links. As levdrakon points out, it’s the exact same article, and I can’t find any of the information anywhere else–no other English OR Japanese sources, even the rumor-mongering sites.
That said, the existence of a “Fukushima 50” is unsubstantiated but believed by many here. One version of the story has these brave souls–and many other overly irradiated workers–locked up in the plant, so heavily radiated that they can never leave, doing all the dirty work. The plant uh, just uses them until they die of radiation poisoning. Ayuh.