Still Using Your iPad?

Can’t. I program for them, and I need it to stay in an Apple-Approved state for upgrades and the like (plus the T-Mobile burn phone is like 1/3 the size).

But it makes a nice iPod Touch replacement, even has a camera.

Yes, but you can’t access the 3G networks, because Apple and Tmobile operate on different 3G Frequencies (1600 & 2100 for Apple, and 1750 for Tmobile, I think.

Ah, that makes sense.

I had a 32GB 3G iPad, but sold it after using it for about 5 weeks.

I was hoping it would be useful for e-mail, because that’s the most frequent use of my notebook (tablet PC) when I’m away from home or office. And it is; the built-in e-mail reader is pretty good, and it can display most attachments. The problem is when I try to reply; I just couldn’t stand that software keyboard, it was more frustrating than the keyboard on my smartphone. (At least my phone has number keys on the top row; I don’t have to switch modes just to type a number or a quotation mark.)

Web browsing wasn’t as pleasant as I hoped either. Many sites didn’t work quite right - many Google services, some web sites that I didn’t know used Flash, etc. Also Safari has an extremely annoying implementation of the zoom: it doesn’t reflow the text. Which meant when I enlarged the font enough, I ended up having to scroll sideways to read each line. Admittedly my smartphone behaves the same way, but I expected better on a 10-inch tablet.

For reading books, I still preferred the Kindle. The LCD screen always seemed to be either too bright or too dark, or too shiny (reflecting stuff). And adjusting the brightness requires exiting the reader and going to the settings screen. It also felt unnecessarily heavy.

Ultimately, it just wasn’t worth carrying around. For bare necessities, my smartphone is adequate (but barely). If I wanted to do anything more, I’d bring my tablet PC. I don’t think there was a single time that I thought “I don’t think I need to take my PC today, but I should take my iPad.” I finally decided that what I needed wasn’t something between my phone and my PC; If anything, my money would be better spent on a better smartphone so e-mail and web browsing is a bit easier to read than on my TMobile G1. My new TMobile Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S) should arrive in a couple of days, so I’ll find out if I was right.

I’ll never buy an Apple desktop or laptop. However, both the iPhone and the iPad seem very interesting. How easy is to combine my Windows stuff with them?

not difficult at all, really. What programs are you using that you want to migrate?

My music (mp3/WMA), videos (mog/wmv/flv), MSOffice stuff, nothing really esoteric.

MP3, yes.
WMA, mog, flv, no.

MSOffice stuff is doable, either through apples work package (10 bucks*3 apps) or 3rd party apps.

Almost all videos don’t suffer from a quick run through a converter, though.

One has to wonder if this thing really took off, you’d then have problems like malware and other such things.

my use of an ipad is super limited but one thing I noticed immediately was the apple standard lack of a right click style option to open menus/alternate options that arent visible on the apps ui. got on my nerves in a hurry.

that said there may be some kind of option like that but in the context of why I was looking at one in the first place it made about as much sense as the old one button mac mice did.

Nevermind.

Reported above link to a Vibram Five Fingers shoe review as spam.

Hmm, I feel confused about how many people here are buying multiple apple products. I sense that some of the posters in this thread are not buying their first apple product in the iPad. Conversely, people who have never purchased apple, ever, (like me) might be skewing the stats the other way.

My questions:

  1. Is the iPad your first apple product?
  2. If it’s not, does the iPad increase your overall use of related technology or as your iPad use went up, the time spent on your other devices go down?

Imho, it seems so far that the responses are clearly divided between people who would buy apple no matter how lame or useless it was and people who would never use apple no matter how good or useful it was.

Apple killed Skype. They say it was because they didn’t get USB out fast enough, but seeing as there were no iPad compatible USB devices that would work at the time, I’m pretty sure they did it to kill the competition.

And that’s the reason I have a problem with Apple. The company can take a program, and say “We don’t like this, so you can’t use it.” It ain’t trolling to say that, especially since the person calling us trolls for not being so happy with it actually brought it up.

Here’s my deal. When Jailbreaking is as easy as it was on the iPhone, so that I don’t have to have Big Brother telling me what programs I can and cannot use, and the price drops down to half or less, that’s when I’ll consider getting one. If there’s not something better already out by then.

(I still believe Jailbreaking, and not Apple’s policies, is what allow the iPhone to take off like it did.)

Meet me in the middle?

My iPad is my second Apple product. I’m pretty much technology company agnostic, I buy for use, my husband on the other hand was rabidly anti apple for years. When the iPhone was released in Canada his company picked up several so they could test internal systems hopefully before the screaming from execs to add their newest toy began. His VP insisted he use the one assigned to security instead of passing it on to one of his people. Shortly after the test was over he replaced both his phone and mine with iPhones.

  1. No. I have always had Apple computers ( starting back when the computers were called Macintosh and the company was called Apple). I currently have a Macbook laptop and an iMac desktop

  2. It has increased my overall use of related technology due to the amount of reading I’m doing on it, which I previously did not do on any other Apple products. However, it has slightly reduced my Macbook use because I use the iPad to check email, browse the web, etc, when I’m sitting on the couch. The laptop now lives in the bedroom because we use it to watch DVDs in bed.

Not true at all… I’ve been using iPods for 10 years now, and currently own two of them (Nano and Classic). I think they’re great. I’ve owned one MacBook as a hand-me-down from my father, but didn’t like it much. I thought about the iPhone but decided to get an Android phone instead. And as I posted above, I bought an iPad but returned it.

I don’t understand this - Skype is still in the iTunes store. Also, what does it have to do with USB?

It is possible, malware authors will follow popular platforms. I feel comfortable that the AppStore approval process will provide a decent level of protection. AFAIK, no malware has made into the iTunes AppStore, but it has happened with other App markets.

Phones which are Jallbroken or allow unknown app sources do not benefit from the same level of protection.

The thing has already “really [taken] off.”

However, malware isn’t such a big thing, because of the way Apple handles their App Store and installation process. You can’t simply “install” things onto the iPad, iPhone or iPod Touch (without jailbreaking it, but I’ll go into that later). All applications that are installed must be installed through the App Store, and Apple goes through them with a fine toothed comb before it approves them.

There is a downside to this, in that it gives apple way more control over content that most people are comfortable with, but it’s an acknowledged tradeoff. I wish they’d stop filtering for content, and stick to safety, on a purely philosophical level… but in reality, I don’t download any content apps for the most part, just the occasional game and utility.

The other side of the spectrum is the Android Marketplace, which relies exclusively on individuals to review and report problems with applications – it’s near anarchy, and as Android grows in popularity, there will be more problems in the Android Marketplace. In my opinion, if Google isn’t going to screen for content, it at least needs to screen for “danger” or malware

Click and hold for about 2 seconds. In Safari “Open in new window,” copy/paste, pop up. In other apps, relevant context menus pop up.

Apple hasn’t shipped with a 1-click mouse in years, since August of 2005 when the Mighty Mouse came out. But, even before then you could hook up any multi-click USB mouse.

And the new Magic Mouse is fantastic. If you’ve got one, I recommend a free software program called ‘MagicPrefs’ that adds a lot of utilities that Apple has yet to come up with. It lets you use multitouch gestures (3 finger click, 3 finger tap, pinch in, pinch out, 4 finger click, 3 finger pinch, etc) that make using it absolutely sweet.

I don’t have them all bound, but I’m using 3 finger click as my desktop switcher, and it makes things smooth. I was trying to play with pinch to zoom, but I was having trouble with it.

Understandable.

I’ve had an original iMac (Flower Power), an iPod Mini ('04 edition), iPod video ('06 edition), Macbook Pro ('08/'09), an iPhone and now an iPad & Mac Mini.

This seems like a lot, until you compare it to the amount of non-apple products I’ve had over the years, and consider how I got them.

I got the iMac because my dad had an advertising company, and one of the people with did business with required he have it for Final Cut Pro, they provided it for free. A year or so later, they folded because about 80% of their business was direct mail, which went to shit with the Anthrax scare.

I got the iPod mini for christmas, because I wanted an MP3 player badly, and my dad got me that one.

My mom, I believe, won a some hundred dollar gift certificate to the Apple Store, and bought both of us iPod Videos for Christmas.

The Macbook Pro, I got because I wanted, same with the iPhone and iPad. But the Mac Mini, I wanted an HTPC, and the new Mac Mini’s are the best I’ve seen. They’re absolutely silent.

(For comparison, so you don’t think I’m an Apple Fanboy, I’ve also had: An HP Touchsmart tx2z laptop, HP Quad Core Tower, VPR Matrix (plus gutting it and rebuilding it), 4 Refurb 1GHz/1Gig ram Intel post-lease boxes, custom built a gaming PC, xbox, xbox 360, gamecube, etc, etc, etc. in the same period of time as the Macs above… and probably a half dozen generic MP3 players for birthdays/christmas.)

My use of technologies has gone up, because I read more on this. All the time spent reading with books is not spent reading on an iPad. Also, fiddling with it in the car on trips is easier, since I don’t have to fight with a laptop.

Me, I’m technologically utilitarian. If it does something I want it to do, I don’t care who makes it – I’ll get it. That’s why the (incomplete) list above has so very many oddities in it that wouldn’t seem to fit together.

I am going to need a cite for this, I don’t see what you’re talking about.

Apple didn’t kill skype, I’ve still got it on my iPhone and on my iPad. Admittedly, the iPad version is made for the iPhone, but it still works just fine. And, I can make 3G calling with skype, or iCall (I don’t have an iCall sub, but I do have a skype sub).

Google can say the same thing. In fact, Google has a program in every android phone to forcibly remove apps. [cite]

I jailbroke mine the day I got it. Three clicks. Spirit.

As of 5/17/09 6.93% of iPhones were jailbroken [cite]. There’s no question, by that time, the iPhone was a success – and those 7%, which helpful, did not “allow” the iPhone to take off. As of 7/26/09, it was 8.43% [cite]. Again, the phone was successful before then, so it doesn’t seem like jailbreaking allowed the iPhone to become successful.

Even going the estimate of Jay Freeman, Cydia Founder, 10% [cite], it’d be hard for me to say that jailbreaking is what allowed the iPhone to be a successful product. It may have contributed, as much as a few percent, but I don’t think you can reasonably make the argument that without Jailbreaking, all 10% of those individuals wouldn’t have gotten iPhones. I do know that I, personally, would’ve still gotten the iPhone even if I couldn’t have jailbroken it. With iOS4, I haven’t even bothered. The only thing I might need to JB for MiWi, but bleh… I don’t use it as much as I used to.

I grew up in a really rural area where my parents learned the primary language (French) later in life (post-immigration) and my mom and dad preferred that my sister and I be proficient in English and receive an English education. My family soon exhausted the public library’s supply of English language books. Beyond reading books, I remember my father constantly being on the lookout for “enrichment” books for me and my sister (more advanced math and science stuff).

Fortunately they had the resources and incentive to drive down to Montreal to build our own library, or he brought us back books from England when he was on assignment, but it’s not like everyone is that lucky. I think it’s wonderful that we have the type of tech available so people who are constantly on the move or live in isolated communities can access information and books at lower cost. Had this been available in the 80s when I grew up, my parents would probably have purchased 4 for the whole family and still saved money.