I agree with this completely.
But, having spent some time in the gym lately on the treadmill, I’m amazed at how many calories one can burn just walking for extended periods of time. The difference in calories burned between a sedentary job and a job that requires one to be on one’s feet is not insignificant.
Just when was this, exactly?? My mother, the nurse, outlined the different types of fat for me at least 20 or 25 years ago.
High-LAR-ious!!!
Why?
Would you be so kind as to provide a cite for this? Unfortunately, people, for some unknowable reason, love to spread misinformation and outright lies about artificial sweeteners. Most of the time, claims like yours turn out to be bullshit. Please show me that these claims are not complete bullshit.
Cecil on high fructose corn syrup and obesity. Interestingly, high fructose corn syrup isn’t really very high in fructose. It’s just higher than regular corn syrup.
This is so fucking far from the trusth I don’t even know where to begin. Ever looked at the price of a bag of rice and a pound of dried black beans? Frozen or canned vegetables? I could stretch the two chicken breasts you spoke of to easily feed 4 people, which would be closer in portion to the KFC example you gave. Spices aren’t necessary for healthy eating, and to suggest they are is patently stupid. Maybe they are an ingredient when YOU cook, but they aren’t necessary. Talk about fucking elitist.
Not only that, before taking Synthroid I was completely asymptomatic, after I started taking it I got tired all the time, my hair started falling out, my nails got really brittle, etc. The stupid GP I was dealing with because my primary was on vacation kept telling me “No, that’s not right, you’re feeling better. That’s what I’m treating you for.” and variations of such when I tried to tell her the medicine was making me worse. That’s why I went to see an Endocrinologist. He took me off Synthroid and retested me after 6 weeks of nothing. Oddly, my first bloodwork was negative for Hashimoto’s … but after 8-10 weeks of Synthroid and then 6 weeks off, I tested positive. coincidence ? :dubious: I started feeling better when I was taking nothing, tried a different synthetic (I’ve forgotten which one) and felt worse, then with Armour it’s evened out.
My Endo had no trouble getting my dose right with Armour. Nailed it the first time. The only hesitation he had about prescribing it was that I am a semi-vegitarian and he didn’t want to offend me. I don’t eat meat because I think it’s a healthier choice, so taking cow thyroid was not really an issue for me.
I haven’t heard that Armour is hard to dose, and I know a few people who are hypothyroid. Are you seeing an Endocrinologist or a GP ??
Because I just assumed that when I said they didn’t have Internet or libraries, that that means that they probably don’t have a television either, let alone cable TV. I forgot how literal people here can be. Also, how suburban.
And there are many people without a working kitchen, hence the beans and rice won’t work for all. Also beans and rice are not available at the 7/11.
Thing is that getting CNN costs at least $30 a month. PBS may have a show on nutrition, or a show on Michael Flatuley. It’s pretty hit or miss. Davenportavenger is exaggerating a little, but it is extremely hard for poor people with no car to eat well. That’s the answer to Phil Gramm’s question, from his 1996 Presidential bid.
Neither of which have anything to do with the idiotic example you gave about chicken breasts. You are now speaking for a number of people that is far, far, FAR less than the number of people who have obesity problems. In other words, you’re way off topic at this point.
Finally, why would you assume that households without internet would also be likely to contain no television?
My sister told me this a good 20 years ago and has never corrected herself. The dietician I saw professionally told me this back in 1998ish. Her study was something like a good 10 years prior.
Wanna fucking bet?
Well, yes, good for you food can be very cheap. But it’s certainly true that you can spend money, or you can spend time. Whole chickens are often cheaper than just the breasts. Dry beans are cheaper than canned are cheaper than seasoned canned are cheaper than frozen dinner. One zucchini seed will keep you in veggies for the rest of your natural life, but you do have to plant it and water it and harvest it and come up with another way to cook zucchini. It does also take a certain amount of knowhow to turn a whole chicken and a bag of dried beans into dinner. However, yes, if you shop wisely you can definately eat a lot cheaper when you cook healthily for yourself. Also, things like dried beans and rice have an almost indefinite storage life.
Ifa dietician said "fat is fat"in 1998, s/he should be out of a job.
Good point. Though it should be pointed out that dried beans, rice, fozen vegetables, and sometimes 5lb bags of potatoes, all come with the knowledge printed on the outside of the bag.
Mine doesn’t. Well technically it’s a Giant Eagle Get-Go, but I’ve gone there looking for dinner, and believe me, there is no real food there. Also keep in mind that not everyone drives and some people do not live on a bus line so not everyone can stock up on healthy foods. Maybe feeding their kids TV dinners is the only way they can get in all those food groups (albeit in a high-salt, high-fat form) without having to spend an hour at the stove (if they have one) or jump through an endless series of hoops to get to a good grocery store. I don’t think that you people with cars fathom just how hard it is for non-drivers. I have to go to the grocery store 2-3 times a week because I can’t ever “stock up.” Sometimes you go with the convenience foods. That’s just the way it is.
In most places, Internet comes packaged with cable. It’s way more likely that someone would have the Internet and no cable than the other way around. Then again I don’t know what that has to do with this thread anyway.
I just want to know why the non-fat people here think they’ve won some kind of moral victory. Jesus Christ, from the way some of you talk, it’s like you’ve split the atom.
If you are down to not even having a television and not having an oven, then you are probably getting your food from a food bank, NOT a 7/11. And they have healthy foods available at food banks.
Is any of this really on point with the OP? Really?
I have never been into a convenience store that did not carry food items. I livedoff stuff like that for a good while. I understand that it can be a hassle for someone to get to a grocery store, but it is not impossible. Especially since one could purchase a great deal in one trip time to save time. Plenty of people without cars do this. Even if you factor in the price of a taxi or bus ride, it’sstill cheaper than eating crap from a 7-11 or fast food every day.
This is so mind-numbingly dumb I’m amazed at how you arrived at it. Besides, you said TV - something that over 99% of all households have at least one of. That includes PBS.
Stupid SDMB ate my previous post.
It isn’t cheaper to eat poorly, it’s easier. We were asked to believe that someone is working, presumably outside the home, all day, taking public transportation to and from work, yet is in such an information drought that they don’t know (I can use underlines too) the difference between good and bad food choices at the most basic levels. I’ll only accept this as willful (underlines again, whee) ignorance.
If a poor person, without a car, working full time but living in a place where they can’t purchase proper groceries (but can find an endless stream of junk food) easily, makes it a priority (last underlines, I promise) to have a healthy diet for themselves and for their family, they can do so.
Or they can make bullshit (I lied) excuses.
For the record, I’m fighting my own battle of the bulge. I’m 10 pounds off my top weight, but I had hoped by now to have lost 15-18 pounds. I know how I got this way, I know what I have to do to fight it, and I make no excuses to anyone, including myself, as to its cause.