Stop Panicking!

Like I said, I think Buttigieg would potentially be a good fit.

I’d be happy with a President Buttigieg, but this is not his time. If you want to beat Trump you need an old straight white guy.

Are the people that are fence-sitting right now between Trump and Biden (or at least claim to be) in the “Biden just isn’t liberal enough-I would prefer someone like Buttigieg” camp, do you think?

Or one of them will have to update their residence.

That person does not exist.

It’s behind a paywall, so I won’t link, but the New York Times editorial board is panicking, Or, to be precise, they are calling for Biden to drop his re-election bid.

Exactly. What non-Biden demographic are you aiming for with a Buttigieg switch?

I just came here to post the NY Times news as well. This does seem unduly hasty. Not that they’re wrong; they give the same arguments that are posted here many times: this election is too important to screw it up. (And that Biden will get their unequivocal endorsement if he stays in).

Have they suggested a replacement that they are willing to get behind?

There is no one on the fence between Biden and Trump who is there because they feel Biden is not liberal enough.

I think that should be obvious.

Gavin Newsom. Straight, white, male, Democrat. Of course there are lots of people who think the fact that he comes from California is disqualifying; but those people all live in states that will go to Trump even if Jesus Christ Himself ran as a Democrat.

Flip the ticket with Harris at the top and Joe staying on as her consigliere.

Has already stated he would not accept the nomination if offered.

And you believe him??? :wink:

Seriously – that is exactly what every Democrat should say in public. Until Biden drops out.

Jesus Haploid Christ! If Democrats would fucking grow a pair and buckle down, this wouldn’t even be a bump in the road. But the histrionics, panic and despair are all we can offer Joe and the Cause of Right. This debate didn’t swing the meters a bit. Which is bad, in that we need them to tick our direction a bit. But we outnumber the bastards and if we keep the Faith, we will prevail. Just CALM THE FUCK DOWN! Go spend the evening/weekend eroding the world’s white wine reserves, smoking a couple dozen joints, whatever it takes for you to GET A GRIP already. Then gird your loins for battle and give them Hell on Monday, and through until Election Day. You want to know why the Republicans have the rep for strong government? Take a look around - that’s why.

Gavin won’t.

Biden’s support among African-Americans was already slipping. Passing over Kamala Harris to give the top spot to a white guy would be the sure way to lose the election. (It would also be wrong, but that’s just mho)

It’s not exactly been hidden but still maybe not widely known but AG Sulzberger (the Chair of the NY Times board) and much of the editorial staff have been having a low key feud with the Biden administration for at least several months. Or maybe the last couple years.

It shocks me not at all that they would (irresponsibly in my opinion) print such a knee-jerk editorial.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/04/25/new-york-times-biden-white-house-00154219

We need someone with a subscription, or wait to tomorrow and I’ll go read it at the library.

Because they tell the lies the people want to hear.