Stranger in store threatened to call cops because of my dog

She’s not learning anything, because by taking her everywhere, you are not teaching her anything.

You need to start with a small crate, move to a larger crate, then the bathroom, then a single room in the house (or apartment, whatever), then a couple of rooms, if you can do that, then finally, the whole place. It might take over a year.

We are talking about a nice dog which is very good company. A cat? Come on, get real. :smiley:

I was being facetious. I doubt a dog like that could be qualified. The dog needs therapy. IMHO.

In what jurisdiction(s) is yelling at people an assault? What about people who stand on street corners yelling (sometimes with an actual bullhorn) about the end of the world or whatever? Are they “assaulting” the passersby?

It can be considered disturbing the peace, and if the yelling is a threat of harm (not just calling the police but threatening physical harm) or even is done in such a way that it is reasonable to fear the yeller will cause imminent harm, then that is assault.

Right, but there was no indication from the OP that the woman in question was threatening him harm.

There is some indication that the op experienced fear of imminent harm.

I am not convinced that it quite meets the definition but neither am I sure it does not.

Is it reasonable to perceive a person much larger than you getting directly in your face yelling at you and blocking your egress represents a threat of imminent harm? I am not sure the answer is obvious one way or the other.

I’m not sure either, but I think it would be awfully hard to prove in court, given the facts presented.

It was 70 outside and the car was in the shade. OP sounds like a reasonable dog owner.

Do you happen to be a sumo-sized woman?

While you may be right, the odds that you are are quite low.

The vast majority of people grossly underestimate how hot cars get even on cool days. This is repeatedly evident – despite public service announcements, the average person seems to feel they know better than the experts on this topic, and, strangely enough, what they “know” always coincides with what they feel like doing.

I’ve stopped numerous times to observe dogs left in cars. I try not to intervene directly unless it’s called for. Typically, almost every time the human appears, they are:

a: defensive no matter how polite I am
b: laughably wrong about how long they’ve been gone. I’ve had a stopwatch function on my phone running for 23 minutes and the person appears and insists that they were “only in the store for 2 minutes.” A generous interpretation is that their sense of time and their memory are distorted. A less generous interpretation is that they are lying.

To the OP: I have no way of knowing if the event actually was as you represent it here or not. The odds are against it, but some people defy the odds.
I will note that it is a risky practice, and that self-appointed advocates for your dog are often motivated not by ego but by the truth that the dog cannot advocate for himself.

See, here’s a case of assumptions leading to the wrong conclusion. 70 in the shade is lethally dangerous in a surprisingly short time.

Nobody who leaves their pet in a car ever thinks it will get too hot.
And yet, pets still die in cars.

Like the people who carry their dogs in the produce section and get defensive when it is politely (at first) pointed out that they are committing a health code violation?

Your pet might be cute, but few appreciate using those same carry hands to go through the fruits and vegetables.

It’s different because, although guide dogs can be dirty/ leave messes,

  1. they are well trained
  2. society places giving a disabled person equal access to everyday life a higher priority than is granted to the self entitled.

Fulll disclosure: I have never needed to clean up after a real guide dog. I HAVE cleaned the messes down the aisle and all over our toilet from pets that are “good” and “never did this before”.

t. former Cali Safeway courtesy clerk.

Are there any statistics on this though? I see dogs in cars fairly often in parking lots and have yet to see one in distress and our summers get pretty hot.

Hell, I have seen messes some kids make in stores.

@shopper

Guide dogs are also in full harness and trained to stay with their owners. I’ve seen people put their unleashed dogs into shopping carts, which is flat-out illegal. And I had one such dog try to bite my only good hand when I handed the credit card and receipt back to the owner. I told her to control her dog, and what was her response? “Oh, he’s just playing.”

Had that dog actually bit my hand, I wouldn’t be “just playing” when I threw it against wall. And no court in the land would convict me.

Why not?

Dogs love cars.

Most dogs. Mine whimpers and drools and paces the whole time; every other dog I’ve owned just loved riding and sleeping in them. But, I lived in a cold climate.

Come on, isn’t it obvious? Why would I? Have you been reading this thread at all? BTW, I live in Arizona, FWIW. Insane temperatures in the summer time. 98°F at 10:00 PM as I post this.